Re: [atlas] DNSmon "not indicative of what happens to normal traffic" claims the root ops

2015-12-11 Thread Nico CARTRON
Hi Randy, On 9 December 2015 at 20:33:46, Randy Bush (ra...@psg.com) wrote: > Fully agreed, but I still don’t see why they are downplaying the event  > like this.  as shumon tweeted, this was the intersection of what the root ops were  willing to say. given that, i am surprised they said anything

Re: [atlas] DNSmon "not indicative of what happens to normal traffic" claims the root ops

2015-12-09 Thread Randy Bush
> Fully agreed, but I still don’t see why they are downplaying the event > like this. as shumon tweeted, this was the intersection of what the root ops were willing to say. given that, i am surprised they said anything at all. i guess they had to say something, and this was about as little that c

Re: [atlas] DNSmon "not indicative of what happens to normal traffic" claims the root ops

2015-12-09 Thread Daniel Karrenberg
On 8.12.15 17:15 , Philip Homburg wrote: > ... > To give an example, the ssh client I use is linked with getdns. Getdns > will try to fetch RRSIG records, etc. from the local resolver. If that > fails, getdns will become a full recursive resolver. > > When ssh starts, the cache of getdns will be

Re: [atlas] DNSmon "not indicative of what happens to normal traffic" claims the root ops

2015-12-08 Thread Philip Homburg
On 2015/12/08 17:08 , Daniel Karrenberg wrote: >> I wonder if in the case of local DNSSEC validating resolvers behind >> DNSSEC-unware resolvers in CPEs, this model is still valid. > > At the risk of turning this into another DNS discussion list: Why are > you wondering exactly? DNSSEC validating

Re: [atlas] DNSmon "not indicative of what happens to normal traffic" claims the root ops

2015-12-08 Thread Daniel Karrenberg
On 8.12.15 16:56 , Philip Homburg wrote: > On 2015/12/08 16:45 , Daniel Karrenberg wrote: >> Real resolvers >> - use caching, >> - retry queries, >> - can use all authoritative servers for a zone, >> - perform recursion, and (again) >> - use caching. >> >> The typical TTL

Re: [atlas] DNSmon "not indicative of what happens to normal traffic" claims the root ops

2015-12-08 Thread Philip Homburg
On 2015/12/08 16:45 , Daniel Karrenberg wrote: > Real resolvers > - use caching, > - retry queries, > - can use all authoritative servers for a zone, > - perform recursion, and (again) > - use caching. > > The typical TTL for caching in the root zone is 48 hours. I w

Re: [atlas] DNSmon "not indicative of what happens to normal traffic" claims the root ops

2015-12-08 Thread Daniel Karrenberg
On 8.12.15 16:45 , Nico CARTRON wrote: > > Fully agreed, but I still don’t see why they are downplaying the event > like this. I would call it "putting into perspective". The DNS kept working. > > Tools such as DNSMON are useful, and of course need to be taken with a > grain of salt and not b

Re: [atlas] DNSmon "not indicative of what happens to normal traffic" claims the root ops

2015-12-08 Thread Nico CARTRON
Hi Chris, On 8 December 2015 at 16:35:29, Chris Amin (ca...@ripe.net) wrote: On 08/12/2015 16:16, Nico CARTRON wrote:  > On 8 December 2015 at 16:07:02, Stephane Bortzmeyer (bortzme...@nic.fr  > ) wrote:  >> http://root-servers.org/news/events-of-20151130.txt  >  > Thanks

Re: [atlas] DNSmon "not indicative of what happens to normal traffic" claims the root ops

2015-12-08 Thread Daniel Karrenberg
On 8.12.15 16:16 , Nico CARTRON wrote: > On 8 December 2015 at 16:07:02, Stephane Bortzmeyer (bortzme...@nic.fr > ) wrote: >> http://root-servers.org/news/events-of-20151130.txt > > Thanks Stéphane for your reactivity, as usual :) > > “Such test traffic may not be ind

Re: [atlas] DNSmon "not indicative of what happens to normal traffic" claims the root ops

2015-12-08 Thread Chris Amin
On 08/12/2015 16:16, Nico CARTRON wrote: > On 8 December 2015 at 16:07:02, Stephane Bortzmeyer (bortzme...@nic.fr > ) wrote: >> http://root-servers.org/news/events-of-20151130.txt > > Thanks Stéphane for your reactivity, as usual :) > > “Such test traffic may not be ind

Re: [atlas] DNSmon "not indicative of what happens to normal traffic" claims the root ops

2015-12-08 Thread Nico CARTRON
On 8 December 2015 at 16:07:02, Stephane Bortzmeyer (bortzme...@nic.fr) wrote: http://root-servers.org/news/events-of-20151130.txt  Thanks Stéphane for your reactivity, as usual :) “Such test traffic may not be indicative of what happens to normal traffic or user experience”. Not entirely sure w

[atlas] DNSmon "not indicative of what happens to normal traffic" claims the root ops

2015-12-08 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
http://root-servers.org/news/events-of-20151130.txt