Re: [ripe-list] The RIPE Code of Conduct

2022-02-20 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list
Hi David, I know very well what is consensus: Been contributing in IETF and all the RIRs since 20+ years ago. Of course, you're free to think this way if I'm able to be constructive or not. However, facts from 20 years and around 100 or policy proposals among all the RIRs, which reached consen

Re: [ripe-list] The RIPE Code of Conduct

2022-02-20 Thread David Lamparter
On Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 12:01:49PM +0100, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list wrote: > You can't declare consensus in something that was developed by a TF > that discriminated even a single participant from being part of the > TF. Consensus is not unanimity. And task forces or workgroups have no

Re: [ripe-list] The RIPE Code of Conduct

2022-02-20 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via ripe-list
Hi Mirjam, all, You can't declare consensus in something that was developed by a TF that discriminated even a single participant from being part of the TF. That creates a problem since minute cero, and basically invalidates the process. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 3/2/22 10:57, "ripe-li

Re: [ripe-list] The RIPE Code of Conduct

2022-02-03 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Joao, > A code of conduct is a welcome addition to RIPE’s toolset. It is a pity we > need one but such is humanity. > > The problem with any code/rulebook is, as has been shown, how it gets applied. > Hans Peter’s was a most unfortunate action: not only was it completely out of > line, showi

Re: [ripe-list] The RIPE Code of Conduct

2022-02-03 Thread Joao Luis Silva Damas
Hi Mirjam, all, A code of conduct is a welcome addition to RIPE’s toolset. It is a pity we need one but such is humanity. The problem with any code/rulebook is, as has been shown, how it gets applied. Hans Peter’s was a most unfortunate action: not only was it completely out of line, showing po

[ripe-list] The RIPE Code of Conduct

2022-02-03 Thread Mirjam Kuehne
Dear colleagues, I have been thinking about what was said on this list about people being afraid of the Code of Conduct. I did not hear people were afraid of adopting a RIPE Code of Conduct. Instead I heard broad consensus and I believe we managed to build a Code of Conduct that encourages "goo