Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-10-02 Thread Cowboy
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 12:26:02 -0400 Fred Gleason wrote: > We’re hoping to have an initial beta release ready so folks can begin testing > in the next month > or so. We should chat ! Not today, but backwards compatibility, and select systems within my plant will be VERY important, IMHO. Cur

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-10-02 Thread Fred Gleason
On Oct 2, 2018, at 11:19, Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote: > I'm curious; how will v3 differ from v2? Will there be major changes in how > Rivendell works? Will it still be based on MySQL, Apache, and QT3? The major goals are: 1) Move off of Qt3 to Qt4 (this part is done). 2) Suppor

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-10-02 Thread Cowboy
On Tue, 2 Oct 2018 11:21:51 -0400 (EDT) Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote: > And restoring a database > from a backup isn't something I'd want an operations person to do. I would agree, but I'd never give operations personnel access to RDAdmin. > Я там, где ребята толковые, Sometim

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-10-02 Thread Rob Landry
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018, Alan Smith wrote: It seems quite a few of the members of this list are somewhat, if not intimately familiar with Linux.  I am going to dare to say although most of this list are, the vast majority of engineers AREN'T. They can always call Paravel for support, if they deem

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-10-02 Thread Rob Landry
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018, Cowboy wrote: On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 11:25:46 -0400 Fred Gleason wrote: (In fact, in the upcoming v3.x release, the backup and restore buttons have been completely removed from RDAdmin) STRONG objection !! While you and I might be quite comfortable at a command shell

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-10-02 Thread Rob Landry
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018, Fred Gleason wrote: (In fact, in the upcoming v3.x release, the backup and restore buttons have been completely removed from RDAdmin). I'm curious; how will v3 differ from v2? Will there be major changes in how Rivendell works? Will it still be based on MySQL, Apache, and

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-09-29 Thread Patrick
I’d be interested in attempting to write such an applet if someone would provide some brief requirements. Patrick > On Sep 28, 2018, at 10:16 AM, Cowboy wrote: > > On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:42:02 -0400 > Fred Gleason wrote: > >> I’m currently thinking along the lines of a small, stand-alone app

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-09-28 Thread Cowboy
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:42:02 -0400 Fred Gleason wrote: > I’m currently thinking along the lines of a small, stand-alone applet > (similar to > rdalsaconfig(8)), that would provide buttons for basic DB management > operations: And the old buttons could/would link to and run the applet. I'd g

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-09-28 Thread Fred Gleason
On Sep 28, 2018, at 12:05, drew Roberts wrote: > Of course, you could leave the buttons in rdadmin. > > Have each fire off a script that would pop up a text file explaining what to > do. Then, other people could replace the explanation scripts with working / > action scripts to bring us back t

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-09-28 Thread drew Roberts
Of course, you could leave the buttons in rdadmin. Have each fire off a script that would pop up a text file explaining what to do. Then, other people could replace the explanation scripts with working / action scripts to bring us back to something like the way things work now. At a minimum, you

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-09-28 Thread Alan Smith
Greetings,   I seldom post, but read a LOT.  Have to say, I completely agree with Cowboy here. Fred, I understand your reasoning for moving to a complete command line maintenance structure [thats how other DB-based systems do it], but hear me out here...   It seems quite a few of the membe

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-09-27 Thread Fred Gleason
On Sep 27, 2018, at 14:22, Cowboy wrote: > STRONG objection !! > > While you and I might be quite comfortable at a command shell interface > ( perhaps even more comfortable than with a GUI in many cases ) > this is absolutely the wrong direction for the "everything smartphone" > generation. It

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-09-27 Thread Cowboy
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 11:25:46 -0400 Fred Gleason wrote: > (In fact, in the upcoming v3.x release, the backup and restore buttons have > been completely > removed from RDAdmin) STRONG objection !! While you and I might be quite comfortable at a command shell interface ( perhaps even more comf

Re: [RDD] Backup/Restoring the DB via command line [WAS: Moving RD to another system]

2018-09-27 Thread Fred Gleason
On Sep 27, 2018, at 09:25, Lorne Tyndale wrote: > As far as I understand the Restore in rdadmin does not do a schema check > / update, so it will work if you are staying at the same version of > Rivendell. Actually, it *does* check the schema after the basic restore is complete, and will run an