Re: USB ids: use our own, or the ones from the OF?

2012-05-29 Thread Björn Stenberg
Frank Gevaerts wrote: > Thoughts? I agree with your plan. Ask for one ID per target, make use of whatever we get. As for buying our own ID space, I'm not sure I think that is the best use of donations. -- Björn

Re: Default compilation with -g?

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Martitz
Am 29.05.2012 18:34, schrieb Rafaël Carré: Without -g: make -j8 293,60s user 17,61s system 690% cpu 45,075 total $ du -chs . 34M . With -g: make -j8 321,22s user 19,88s system 688% cpu 49,556 total $ du -chs . 99M . My SSD will not like this :'( I'm also suprised compile time is imp

Re: USB ids: use our own, or the ones from the OF?

2012-05-29 Thread Thomas Martitz
Am 29.05.2012 22:11, schrieb Frank Gevaerts: * Do we want one id per target (I think ideally we do)? Or even one id per "main" protocol (so we'd use e.g. a different id for MSC than for MTP (whenever we get MTP support)) (this would mosy probably be asking too much from the openmoko folk

Re: Pre-release testing framework

2012-05-29 Thread Nils Wallménius
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 9:40 PM, Frank Gevaerts wrote: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 08:48:42PM +0200, Lorenzo Miori wrote: >> Yes. Atomic tests. Not just saying playback, you're right, it's too wide. > > Yes, but that wasn't really my point :) What I mean is that we should > have a *small* basic test

Re: USB ids: use our own, or the ones from the OF?

2012-05-29 Thread Paul Louden
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 3:27 PM, Michael Sparmann wrote: > +1, and I think 256 IDs are not all that much. They probably have a > block of 65536 addresses, and acquiring such a block only costs a > one-time fee of $2000. So we'd basically be asking them for about $10 > worth of IDs. $2000 doesn't

Re: USB ids: use our own, or the ones from the OF?

2012-05-29 Thread Michael Sparmann
> * Do we want one id per target (I think ideally we do)? Or even one id > per "main" protocol (so we'd use e.g. a different id for MSC than for > MTP (whenever we get MTP support)) (this would mosy probably be asking > too much from the openmoko folks) +1, and I think 256 IDs are not all th

Re: Default compilation with -g?

2012-05-29 Thread Michael Sparmann
Am 29.05.2012 20:49, schrieb Frank Gevaerts: > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 06:20:48PM +0200, Bertrik Sikken wrote: >> How about enabling option -g by default? > > I'm in favour. > > Frank > +1 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: USB ids: use our own, or the ones from the OF?

2012-05-29 Thread Amaury Pouly
2012/5/29 Frank Gevaerts > Hi, > > Apparently the Openmoko people distribute USB ids to selected projects > and communities that ask for them. > (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Product_IDs#Conditions > and > http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2012/05/21/#20120521-open_registry_for_usb_and_

USB ids: use our own, or the ones from the OF?

2012-05-29 Thread Frank Gevaerts
Hi, Apparently the Openmoko people distribute USB ids to selected projects and communities that ask for them. (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/USB_Product_IDs#Conditions and http://laforge.gnumonks.org/weblog/2012/05/21/#20120521-open_registry_for_usb_and_mac_addrs) I think we should seriously

Re: Pre-release testing framework

2012-05-29 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 08:48:42PM +0200, Lorenzo Miori wrote: > Yes. Atomic tests. Not just saying playback, you're right, it's too wide. Yes, but that wasn't really my point :) What I mean is that we should have a *small* basic test suite (which, yes, consists of clear unambiguous and simple tes

Re: Default compilation with -g?

2012-05-29 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 06:20:48PM +0200, Bertrik Sikken wrote: > How about enabling option -g by default? I'm in favour. Frank -- "Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enou

Re: Pre-release testing framework

2012-05-29 Thread Lorenzo Miori
Yes. Atomic tests. Not just saying playback, you're right, it's too wide. And yes, plugin or other high level functionalities have to be debugged later: it's a music player after all :D Lorenzo 2012/5/29 Frank Gevaerts : > On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 06:58:53PM +0200, Bertrik Sikken wrote: >> With re

Re: Pre-release testing framework

2012-05-29 Thread Frank Gevaerts
On Tue, May 29, 2012 at 06:58:53PM +0200, Bertrik Sikken wrote: > With respect to test strategy: In my opinion, we can start with > a set of rather basic tests to verify high-level behaviour, rather > than to go for test completeness. A test suite taking about (say) > one hour should keep the barri

Re: Pre-release testing framework

2012-05-29 Thread Lorenzo Miori
I just read the email about the test cases: well it is a very good idea. I completely agree this and actually doing a project with a methodology can help quite a lot. I don't know if you guys are aware of the "agile" methodologies, well look for "user stories" and "acceptance tests" (XP/Scrum and A

Pre-release testing framework

2012-05-29 Thread Bertrik Sikken
Hi all, Last week at devcon euro 2012 we talked about pre-release testing and I'm volunteering to help things forward w.r.t. testing. One of the problems we've seen with the last release was that really basic functionality like audio file playback and radio playback did not work on some targets a

Re: Default compilation with -g?

2012-05-29 Thread Rafaël Carré
Le 29/05/2012 12:20, Bertrik Sikken a écrit : > Hi all, > > While debugging a problem using our shiny new ARM backtrace feature, > I noticed that by default, we're not building with -g (= include > debugging information in the binary). This means that with the > default build, I can't get the sour

Default compilation with -g?

2012-05-29 Thread Bertrik Sikken
Hi all, While debugging a problem using our shiny new ARM backtrace feature, I noticed that by default, we're not building with -g (= include debugging information in the binary). This means that with the default build, I can't get the source code line from the backtrace addresses (with arm-elf-ea