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From: Paul Louden [mailto:paulthen...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 7:24 PM
pondlife wrote:
>
> Could the iPod "stop" action be delayed so it only happens on key release
> (i.e. when it's known to be a long press, not a very-long one)?
>
This is a _very
Am Di, 30.06.2009, 20:20, schrieb Paul Louden:
> pondlife wrote:
>>
>> Ah, gotcha.
>>
>> Personally, I would want it to restart automatically in this case -
>> because
>> it would be consistent and (particularly) for use as an alarm clock. But
>> I
>> might have missed an earlier message giving a c
On 30.06.2009 20:26, Paul Louden wrote:
I agree that it can be useful honestly. When a playlist ends, it'd be
nice to have the option to _manually_ restart it without hunting it down
again. I just don't think it should ever automatically be restarted by
other things (such as rebooting the play
Mike Holden wrote:
I have to say it doesn't seem too useful to me. Often, when picking up my
player in the morning, I can't remember where I was up to listening last
time. I just hit PLAY, and if I was in the middle of a playlist it
resumes, otherwise I get told that there is nothing to resume.
pondlife wrote:
Could the iPod "stop" action be delayed so it only happens on key release
(i.e. when it's known to be a long press, not a very-long one)?
This is a _very_ dangerous idea. Paus, Shutdown and Stop are the same
button, and right now you get audible feedback that you've held it
pondlife wrote:
Ah, gotcha.
Personally, I would want it to restart automatically in this case - because
it would be consistent and (particularly) for use as an alarm clock. But I
might have missed an earlier message giving a case where the opposite
behaviour would be desirable, feel free to
> I have to say it doesn't seem too useful to me. Often, when picking up my
> player in the morning, I can't remember where I was up to listening last
> time. I just hit PLAY, and if I was in the middle of a playlist it
> resumes, otherwise I get told that there is nothing to resume. That seems
> t
pondlife wrote:
>> If I play a playlist to the end, and then hit the PLAY button, I get a
>> message "Nothing to resume", and that is entirely logical.
>
> It's just that it could be slightly more useful - if it instead restarted
> the last (i.e. current) playlist from the start. Extra functionali
On 30.06.2009 16:32, Torne Wuff wrote:
I want my player, at poweron, to carry on doing what it was doing at
poweroff.
Then "last screen" is probably what you need.
Having it resume the same playlist again would mean it would start
buffering and playing something that I never want to hear
> (and no, setting start screen to 'last screen' doesn't work, because the
> poweroff button on ipod triggers 'stop' before poweroff and thus the
> last screen is never the WPS).
Ugh - ok. So this is the real problem here.
Surely, it would be better to fix the underlying target problem rather th
> If I play a playlist to the end, and then hit the PLAY button, I get a
> message "Nothing to resume", and that is entirely logical.
It's just that it could be slightly more useful - if it instead restarted
the last (i.e. current) playlist from the start. Extra functionality for no
cost (I thi
On Tue, Jun 30 09 at 2:48:45PM +0100, pondlife wrote:
> > If I understood Paul's objections correctly, the power off case was
> > exactly the special case (that's why I mentioned power off in the response
> > to you). Paul suggested, that, if the playlist ended "naturally", i.e.
> > played to t
> I dont't quite get both points, but maybe that's just me.
I certainly get the bit about speakers being connected when you boot up (and
scaring the hell out of you!), but that could happen just as easily if you
were mid-playlist, and manually stopped before shutting down.
If you don't want to
Al Le wrote:
> That's what I think either.
>
>
> For your benefit: here are some excerpts from Paul's mails:
>
>> Specifically, I'm not sure it's obvious that ended playback should
>> result in a resume on power on. If a playlist ends, because you set
>> repeat "off" and then the player idle powero
On 30.06.2009 15:48, pondlife wrote:
If I understood Paul's objections correctly, the power off case was
exactly the special case (that's why I mentioned power off in the
response to you). Paul suggested, that, if the playlist ended
"naturally", i.e. played to the end (and hence playback stopped
> If I understood Paul's objections correctly, the power off case was
> exactly the special case (that's why I mentioned power off in the response
> to you). Paul suggested, that, if the playlist ended "naturally", i.e.
> played to the end (and hence playback stopped), and then the player was
>
On 30.06.2009 13:36, pondlife wrote:
Yes, but you answer does not address the "dimension" of power-off
I must be missing something - I don't see how power off is related at all.
[. . .]
I consider "Start screen = WPS" as an automatic press of PLAY (or
selecting "resume playback" from the menu)
> Yes, but you answer does not address the "dimension" of power-off
I must be missing something - I don't see how power off is related at all.
> With the current SVN, if the start screen is set to WPS, and I stop the
> playback (manually) and then switch off the player, the playback starts
>
On 30.06.2009 09:20, pondlife wrote:
I'd agree with this fully with one addition: if no power off happens in
between.
I disgree with this a little, it seems counter-intuitive and overly complex.
The basic change needed is that, on playlist end, we reset the playlist
pointer to the start (exac
> I'd agree with this fully with one addition: if no power off happens in
> between.
I disgree with this a little, it seems counter-intuitive and overly complex.
The basic change needed is that, on playlist end, we reset the playlist
pointer to the start (exactly as we would for repeat all), th
On Mon, Jun 29 09 at 2:52:25PM +0200, Thomas Martitz wrote:
> Am Mo, 29.06.2009, 07:45, schrieb Jonathan Gordon:
> > yes, music should not restart on boot if the playlist ended...
> >
>
> I really think the user expects music to be playing when he set the start
> screen to WPS, because that's boi
Am Mo, 29.06.2009, 07:45, schrieb Jonathan Gordon:
> Oh shit... me and Paul agreeing twice in one weekend!?
At least I still disagree :P
> yes, music should not restart on boot if the playlist ended...
>
I really think the user expects music to be playing when he set the start
screen to WPS, bec
> On the other hand, if "repeat" is set to "no" that means "I want the
> music to stop after we reach the end of the playlist and not start until
> I manually resume playback or select a new song."
I'd agree with this fully with one addition: if no power off happens in between.
> There's a diff
I also like the ability to restart a finished playlist, but think that a
finished playlist should not restart on power on.
2009/6/28 Paul Louden
> Al Le wrote:
>
>>
>> I'd also say it should go to WPS in that situation. "Repeat" refers to the
>> continuous operation IMO. If the player is powered off, it's no "repeat"
>> anymore. If the start screen is set to WPS that means (for me at least) that
>> the user would lik
Al Le wrote:
I'd also say it should go to WPS in that situation. "Repeat" refers to
the continuous operation IMO. If the player is powered off, it's no
"repeat" anymore. If the start screen is set to WPS that means (for me
at least) that the user would like to (automatically) hear music after
On 29.06.2009 00:17, Paul Louden wrote:
Thomas Martitz wrote:
Resume, as mentioned in the task.
I did not ask which one the task does go to. I asked which it "should"
go to.
Specifically, I'm not sure it's obvious that ended playback should
result in a resume on power on. If a playlist ends,
Thomas Martitz wrote:
Resume, as mentioned in the task.
I did not ask which one the task does go to. I asked which it "should"
go to.
Specifically, I'm not sure it's obvious that ended playback should
result in a resume on power on. If a playlist ends, because you set
repeat "off" and then t
Paul Louden schrieb:
Thomas Martitz wrote:
Rafaël Carré schrieb:
It would be good!
If the startup screen is set to WPS, and playback has ended, which
screen should it go to? Resume, or not?
Resume, as mentioned in the task.
Best regards.
Thomas Martitz wrote:
Rafaël Carré schrieb:
It would be good!
If the startup screen is set to WPS, and playback has ended, which
screen should it go to? Resume, or not?
Rafaël Carré schrieb:
It would be good!
I agree!
Best regards
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:35:27 +0200
Al Le wrote:
> Hello. I like the idea of this patch (FS#10343). I tried it out and
> it works for me. What do you think about including it into SVN?
It would be good!
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Rafaël Carré
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