Re: [ros-dev] Rasberry Pi

2012-01-11 Thread Alex Ionescu
Also the newer ARMs don't just have "new ASM instructions". There are major MMU changes, for example, as well as SMP support. Best regards, Alex Ionescu On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 2:51 PM, victor martinez wrote: > > Looks like Raspberry Pi will became very popular and it's a big chance > > for pr

Re: [ros-dev] HP webOS goes opensource

2012-01-11 Thread Andrew Faulds
It already is better than Linux! (in design...) 2012/1/11 Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo : > "our kernel to be better than Linux" > > ugh... high expectations, indeed! :) that would be the ultimante push for > ReactOS! > > > On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Aleksey Bragin wrote: >> >> There is

Re: [ros-dev] HP webOS goes opensource

2012-01-11 Thread Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo
"our kernel to be better than Linux" ugh... high expectations, indeed! :) that would be the ultimante push for ReactOS! On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Aleksey Bragin wrote: > There is something interesting for me in all these (both webOS and > Android). > Kernel is just a kernel, I'm more int

Re: [ros-dev] HP webOS goes opensource

2012-01-11 Thread Aleksey Bragin
There is something interesting for me in all these (both webOS and Android). Kernel is just a kernel, I'm more interested in the higher level framework, and that's what could be theoretically used atop of ReactOS. However all of these are just speculations, first of all we need our kernel to be

Re: [ros-dev] Rasberry Pi

2012-01-11 Thread victor martinez
> Looks like Raspberry Pi will became very popular and it's a big chance > for promoting ReactOS(if there will be an effort to port it to > ARMv6Z). I'm not very familiar with multiplatform coding so correct me > if i'm wrong: the main idea in porting ReactOS to ARM is replacing ASM > code into C

Re: [ros-dev] HP webOS goes opensource

2012-01-11 Thread Igor Paliychuk
WebOS is Linux-based OS and i don't think it can be more usefull in ReactOS development than any other Linux distro. It's very good that we got new open source OS but this should not turn into promoting another OS in ReactOS dev mailing list. ___ Ros-dev

[ros-dev] HP webOS goes opensource

2012-01-11 Thread Александр
Please think about using parts of webOS as top shell for ReactOS (for tablets and phones). http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/12/open-source/  HP webOS goes opensource. http://opensource.palm.com/packages.html  here you can find parts of webOS source code (still not complete) webOS provides amazin

Re: [ros-dev] Rasberry Pi

2012-01-11 Thread Maya Posch
Yeah, the higher-level code should work without issues on the Pi considering it has an MMU and FPU. Converting the ASM to ARM-style ASM will be the key and I'm not qualified to make any assumptions there. Are there any fundamental issues with porting the existing ASM code in ROS to an ARMv6Z a

Re: [ros-dev] Rasberry Pi

2012-01-11 Thread Igor Paliychuk
Looks like Raspberry Pi will became very popular and it's a big chance for promoting ReactOS(if there will be an effort to port it to ARMv6Z). I'm not very familiar with multiplatform coding so correct me if i'm wrong: the main idea in porting ReactOS to ARM is replacing ASM code into C in parts wh

Re: [ros-dev] Rasberry Pi

2012-01-11 Thread Maya Posch
If the Wikipedia page on ARM 11 is to be believed (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM11), then even the original Nvidia Tegra uses this architecture, but aside from the Raspberry Pi I am not aware of any ARM11-based platform out there which might be useful for ROS, unless someone wants to run it

Re: [ros-dev] Rasberry Pi

2012-01-11 Thread Ged Murphy
I thought Windows supported v5 - v7? Anyway, I realise that the Raspberry Pi uses the dated v6 architecture, but the killer thing here is the $25 price tag. There's also the BeagleBoard which is slightly cheaper than the PandaBoard, and also uses the A8/v7 chip. But at $149 I really don't see

Re: [ros-dev] Rasberry Pi

2012-01-11 Thread Artanis
On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Alex Ionescu wrote: > It's a generation-lagging ARM11 -- Windows and iOS don't support these kind > of chips anymore (called ARMv6) because of major lacking functionality. The > ARMv6K (which I'm not sure the Pi uses) is probably the minimum you'd want > to use, a

Re: [ros-dev] Rasberry Pi

2012-01-11 Thread Maya Posch
According to Wikipedia the Raspberry Pi uses the ARM1176JZF-S core which is an ARMv6Z architecture. It should be similar to the ARMv6K as it most notably lacks multi-core support. It's still an old architecture, of course, and I agree that the Cortex A-series is a much better choice as a develo

Re: [ros-dev] Rasberry Pi

2012-01-11 Thread Alex Ionescu
It's a generation-lagging ARM11 -- Windows and iOS don't support these kind of chips anymore (called ARMv6) because of major lacking functionality. The ARMv6K (which I'm not sure the Pi uses) is probably the minimum you'd want to use, and I know the ROS ARM port was retargeted to ARMv7 which has be

Re: [ros-dev] Rasberry Pi

2012-01-11 Thread Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo
ROS needs more devs urgently On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Ged Murphy wrote: > It looks like the model B boards are now in manufacture. > http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/509 > > There are only 10k being made being made in this batch and demand is > really high, so I doubt they’ll

[ros-dev] Rasberry Pi

2012-01-11 Thread Ged Murphy
It looks like the model B boards are now in manufacture. http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/509 There are only 10k being made being made in this batch and demand is really high, so I doubt they'll last longer than a few minutes. With only 256MB RAM available, I doubt Windows 8 will ever run o