Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-18 Thread Olaf Siejka
2009/7/18 Jose Catena >But after studying the code a bit and following the mailing lists for a while, the perception of organization and progress is >poor, what introduces the doubt: there is a lot of work to be done, would my effort be wasted? The only case your effort might be wasted is if you

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Jose Catena
I think I would be a good example of a potential new developer, one that would be valuable and interested in the project. So perhaps my opinion may count to an average of the way others like me would see ReactOS. Maybe my opinion might be also valuable because I have been managing large scale pro

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Aleksey Bragin
It could go to ros-general then, but it fits forums the best. The issue started out as a development problem though. WBR, Aleksey. On Jul 18, 2009, at 1:40 AM, Michael Martin wrote: > Ok > > > BTW, I think it would be interesting if other people on this list > said > > how they first find ou

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Michael Martin
Ok > BTW, I think it would be interesting if other people on this list said > how they first find out about ReactOS. I read the ROS-DEV mailing list to get information on development issues and the like, not to read everyone story on how they found ROS. IMO this stuff needs to be kept on the f

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Maya Posch
For me I discovered ReactOS many years ago during its CLI-only days during my search for alternative OSs. I essentially searched for new OSs to try and follow :) What I think may help the exposure of ReactOS is to work on a really polished release every so many months, something which can act l

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Alexandru Lovin
My story is a bit more interesting. Short version: Wikipedia. Long version: I was looking around for a list of OSes, to see 16-bit ones, 32-bit ones, 8-bit ones, etc. I was more interested in how much you can do with few bits - 8 or 16, for example. I was trying to find out what the latest NT vers

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Alex
Hello All, I just thought I should mention how I found out about ROS: there was a torrent on our local tracker with a short title "ReactOS 0.3.9". And I said to myself - WTF? I never heard about an OS by that name. And only 30 Mb? I.e., by pure accident :) But on the other hand, if ROS weren't

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Olaf Siejka
I have a crapload of those, alas they often require a bit more work than stubplementing a few api`s. Some are in bugzilla for years... well i understand that there were more important things. I still think that "make this and that app work" is just a theory, wont work, or will require hefty hacks.

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread victor martinez
Hi, Well it´s nice to see that a Dev is asking in the ML about this issue. If instead Samuel the email were sent by a new guy,the most probably answer would have been "Patches are accepted","Less arguing more patching","DIY"..which is a nice way of saying "shut up" and not trying to find a way.

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Alex
Hello Aleksey, Friday, July 17, 2009, 4:28:46 PM, you wrote: > Ok, how about fixing a few of our old and boring bugs? Got motivation > to fix partitioning in the first stage setup, for example, by > rewriting old code? > Motivation? It gives more usability to the project. You are missing the p

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Aleksey Bragin
> About "this is an open-source, free project, so we have no control > over people and can't force them to do what needs to be done" – this > is simply not true. It is not a secret, that once a salary of a > developer in a company reaches a certain minimum level, money stop to > be the primary moti

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Alex
Hello Samuel, Friday, July 17, 2009, 10:54:34 AM, you wrote: > Hello everyone. I find myself today thinking, as I sometimes do, > about the ReactOS problem. Good post, Samuel, but it seems you are mostly concerned with attracting users. I think that on this stage of the project it all boils down

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Aleksey Bragin
Good post, and thanks for backing me - I keep telling the same for years! And, keep watching, an end to "reactos sucks" era is coming very soon. WBR, Aleksey Bragin. On Jul 17, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Samuel serapion wrote: Hello everyone. I find myself today thinking, as I sometimes do, about

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Olaf Siejka
You Samuel, should know best, that application functionality cannot be isolated from general OS bugfixing. As we know, it often looks like: application z needs functionality y that can only be implemented if component x is rewritten and requires w to be fixed in kernel. You cannot just "make z work

Re: [ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Maya Posch
Interesting ideas, I can definitely see potential in them :) Coincidentally, I began work on the ReactOS Synthesis project last year, with the intention of making a utility which would replace components in Windows with their ReactOS equivalents after they had been tested to be stable. While th

[ros-dev] On the growth of the reactos project

2009-07-17 Thread Samuel serapion
Hello everyone. I find myself today thinking, as I sometimes do, about the ReactOS problem. How come we are trying to clone the biggest and arguably the most popular desktop OS in the world and still have such a small community/user base? The obvious answer to this question is that ros doesn’t do