Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-11 Thread Ged Murphy
s been a supporter of the former, even though some of my ideas to tackle it haven't always been popular with all the devs. Ged. From: ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org [mailto:ros-dev-boun...@reactos.org] On Behalf Of Olaf Siejka Sent: 11 October 2010 10:25 To: ReactOS Development List

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-11 Thread Olaf Siejka
I am sorry to point out that our devs (no pointing out) still fail to do something as simple as observing their commit on buildbot if it causes any problem. I`m not even talking about things more complicated, like not commiting again without first checking if previous commit was built fine. Also, d

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-11 Thread Adam Kachwalla
pment List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle   I do agree with Wax in general, that any cycle will be ok provided that we can stick to it.   Three month cycle would be (more/less):   - 6 weeks of pure development (and first 4 weeks - release of the x-1 version)

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-11 Thread Ged Murphy
evelopment List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle I do agree with Wax in general, that any cycle will be ok provided that we can stick to it. Three month cycle would be (more/less): - 6 weeks of pure development (and first 4 weeks - release of the x-1 version); -

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-11 Thread Adam Kachwalla
It does sound quite short to me too. I would be quite surprised if one can even stick to this cycle. Remember that this is an operating system after all.On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 19:14:17 +1100, Olaf Siejka wrote:I do agree with Wax in general, that any cycle will be ok provided that we can stick to

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-11 Thread Olaf Siejka
I do agree with Wax in general, that any cycle will be ok provided that we can stick to it. Three month cycle would be (more/less): - 6 weeks of pure development (and first 4 weeks - release of the x-1 version); - 6 weeks of stabilising trunk, bugfixing, plus some finishing work on features that

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-11 Thread Ged Murphy
os.org] On Behalf Of Olaf Siejka Sent: 11 October 2010 08:08 To: ReactOS Development List Subject: Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle We tried 3-month cycle and it simply doesnt work, unless you know a way to discipline devs. 2010/10/10 Ged Murphy I still think you should stick to a 3 month

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-11 Thread Adam Kachwalla
A 3 month cycle is ridiculous and IMO unnecessary. I think it will be too much work on the release engineers, and very little (if any) actual development work will end up taking place, and things will be rushed with hack fixes and what not, where time could have been better spent coming up

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-11 Thread Olaf Siejka
We tried 3-month cycle and it simply doesnt work, unless you know a way to discipline devs. 2010/10/10 Ged Murphy > I still think you should stick to a 3 month cycle. > If you want a stable tree and good exposure, you need to release often. > It hasn't gone to plan in the past but I think things

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-10 Thread Ged Murphy
I still think you should stick to a 3 month cycle. If you want a stable tree and good exposure, you need to release often. It hasn't gone to plan in the past but I think things should start to stabalize going forward. 6 months is definitely not an option IMO. Ged. On 10 October 2010 12:00, Ale

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-10 Thread Javier Agustìn Fernàndez Arroyo
age - > *From:* Olaf Siejka > *To:* ReactOS Development List > *Sent:* Saturday, October 09, 2010 3:14 PM > *Subject:* [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle > > I think its a good time to discuss current development cycle. > It become clear to me, that there is no way

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-10 Thread Kamil Hornicek
I'd vote for a six months release cycle. ...in case we can actually enforce it. - Original Message - From: Olaf Siejka To: ReactOS Development List Sent: Saturday, October 09, 2010 3:14 PM Subject: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle I think its a good time to di

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-10 Thread Aleksey Bragin
I support 4 month cycle, the 3 months turned out to be unrealistic, while 6 months is too long time between releases (we are speaking about normal development, not kernel rewrites which have to take that long time). WBR, Aleksey Bragin. On Oct 9, 2010, at 5:14 PM, Olaf Siejka wrote: I th

Re: [ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-09 Thread WaxDragon
I approve of anything that we will stick to. A six month cycle sounds good. On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 9:14 AM, Olaf Siejka wrote: > I think its a good time to discuss current development cycle. > It become clear to me, that there is no way we can currently adhere to 3 > months development cycle. I

[ros-dev] ReactOS development cycle

2010-10-09 Thread Olaf Siejka
I think its a good time to discuss current development cycle. It become clear to me, that there is no way we can currently adhere to 3 months development cycle. Its pointless to stick to something we managed to succeed only once or twice. Agreeing with the fact we do need releases, for various reas