Re: [RDBO] Unexpected column defaults in MySQL

2007-01-17 Thread John Siracusa
On 1/17/07, Jonathan Vanasco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jan 17, 2007, at 12:56 PM, John Siracusa wrote: >> But now that I look further, it appears that it's the "describe >> mytable" output that's incorrect (or at least misleading). When I >> insert a row without specifying a value for that V

Re: [RDBO] Unexpected column defaults in MySQL

2007-01-17 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 17:33 -0500, John Siracusa wrote: > I was ignoring strict mode for the purposes of this exploration. Even > in "crazy old MySQL mode" I think the "describe table" output should > more closely match what's returned by DBD::mysql in COLUMN_DEF. I agree, that sounds like a bug

Re: [RDBO] Unexpected column defaults in MySQL

2007-01-17 Thread Praveen Ray
>mysql behaves DRASTICALLY different depending on that flag. it might >actually do what you expect it to when turned on. >// Jonathan Vanasco "It might actually do what you expect"... hehe...well said! - Take Surveys.

Re: [RDBO] Unexpected column defaults in MySQL

2007-01-17 Thread Jonathan Vanasco
On Jan 17, 2007, at 12:56 PM, John Siracusa wrote: > But now that I look further, it appears that it's the "describe > mytable" output that's incorrect (or at least misleading). When I > insert a row without specifying a value for that VARCHAR(10) NOT NULL > column, it ends up with an empty strin

Re: [RDBO] Unexpected column defaults in MySQL

2007-01-17 Thread John Siracusa
On 1/17/07, Cory Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> This is arguably a bug in DBD::mysql, but as far as RDBO is concerned, > > For what it is worth, I dont think it is strictly DBD::mysql's fault, it is > Mysql itself. > > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/data-type-defaults.html > > It mig

Re: [RDBO] Unexpected column defaults in MySQL

2007-01-17 Thread Perrin Harkins
On Wed, 2007-01-17 at 10:01 -0500, John Siracusa wrote: > I'm forwarding this private email thread to the list with the > permission of the (now anonymized) sender because it's about an > unexpected situation that many RDBO users may face. Yes, it revolves > around yet another fun feature of MySQL

Re: [RDBO] Unexpected column defaults in MySQL

2007-01-17 Thread Cory Bennett
> This is arguably a bug in DBD::mysql, but as far as RDBO is concerned, For what it is worth, I dont think it is strictly DBD::mysql's fault, it is Mysql itself. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/data-type-defaults.html It might be fixed with mysql 5.0.2, but I do not have that version

[RDBO] Unexpected column defaults in MySQL

2007-01-17 Thread John Siracusa
I'm forwarding this private email thread to the list with the permission of the (now anonymized) sender because it's about an unexpected situation that many RDBO users may face. Yes, it revolves around yet another fun feature of MySQL/DBD::mysql. How did you guess? :) Anyway, here it is, for pos