FW: A proposed work plan for this group

2002-04-11 Thread dalegibbs
I have been following this tread for some time and am fascinated over the amount of time being dedicated to the ISA Receiver ID. It really does not matter what the ISA Qualifier and Receiver ID are since they will be used as a key to look up an EDI address and routing information. As long as the i

I see no reason to act as if this practice is offensive.

2002-04-11 Thread William J. Kammerer
Bob Poiesz has already explained why a receiver would be a clearinghouse, e.g., (25 January) A clearinghouse can receive 10 837s from 10 providers. Each provider can be sending claims to 10 different payers in their 837. When the clearinghouse resorts and organizes the claims they produce 10 837s

Re: A proposed work plan for this group

2002-04-11 Thread William J. Kammerer
Ajay: I'm not (now) saying ZZ should be removed from the allowable list of Interchange ID Qualifiers in the HIPAA IGs. But other than that, there's really not too much we can say about ZZ, period. If you feel otherwise, please feel free to cobble up a paragraph or two on its proposed usage. Bu

RE: Who am I? Sender, Receiver, Intermediary, or just plain Chump?

2002-04-11 Thread Ajay K sanghi
Rachel, I think, it was my mistake not to include question from Chris in my response below, to whom the original reply was. If you read it in that perspective, what I am saying is very different (key point there being "at par with proprietary message"). I can go on and explain "technically" why

RE: Are only 15 characters in the ISA receiver ID enough?

2002-04-11 Thread Robert Huffman
Rachel, I cannot find any reference in the implementation guides (I am currently studying the 276/277 transaction set) to the sender/receiver in an ISA refers to payer/provider or provider/payer. Please point out to me where in the guides it states that the ISA identifies payers and providers.

Re: A proposed work plan for this group

2002-04-11 Thread Michael Mattias/Tal Systems
- Original Message - From: William J. Kammerer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'WEDi/SNIP ID & Routing' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:28 AM Subject: Re: A proposed work plan for this group > We need consensus on the following issues: > > (1) Agreement that global IDs are

RE: Who am I? Sender, Receiver, Intermediary, or just plain Chump?

2002-04-11 Thread Rachel Foerster
Michael, Right on! Rachel -Original Message- From: Michael Mattias/Tal Systems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 09, 2002 9:30 AM To: WEDI/SNIP Listserve Subject: RE: Who am I? Sender, Receiver, Intermediary, or just plain Chump? I have followed this thread with some int

RE: Who am I? Sender, Receiver, Intermediary, or just plain Chump?

2002-04-11 Thread Rachel Foerster
So, what's new here. The only valid and allowed ISA sender/receiver identifiers are those specified in the HIPAA guides. Get over it, and get on with it. It seems to me the issue that should be addressed is not which coding system the identifier is from, but rather the function that identifier sh

RE: A proposed work plan for this group

2002-04-11 Thread Rachel Foerster
Sure, you can do whatever you want tothe test will be the acceptance of the marketplace in what you do. Thus, it's vital to keep this in mind, and the factors I mentioned below are all factors of marketplace acceptance. Rachel -Original Message- From: William J. Kammerer [mailto:[EMA

RE: Are only 15 characters in the ISA receiver ID enough?

2002-04-11 Thread Rachel Foerster
Ron, while I don't disagree with your comments in general, keep in mind that nowhere in the HIPAA guides is the ISA sender or receiver identified as any other party than the provider or the payer. Nothing in the guides, which is what the industry must use, indicates that the ISA sender or receiver

RE: A proposed work plan for this group

2002-04-11 Thread Ajay K sanghi
William, >(2) Agreement that the ZZ qualifier is not to be used on the ISA. This necessarily eliminates the use of proprietary payer or CH assigned provider IDs. While it ok to "recommend" that ZZ qualifier not be used, I think there has to be a plan to address ZZ as well since it's use is qui

Interchange ID Qualifier

2002-04-11 Thread William J. Kammerer
Would anyone disagree that the National Provider ID (NPI) and the National Plan ID are really the best ways to identify providers and payers - in both the application transaction sets *and* the ISA - if they ever come to pass? If so, either ID type beats DUNS, HIN, FEIN, etc., in the context of

Re: A proposed work plan for this group

2002-04-11 Thread William J. Kammerer
We need consensus on the following issues: (1) Agreement that global IDs are to be used for all parties (providers, payers, TPAs, repricers, billing agents, clearinghouses, etc.). One or more IDs - from one or more of the supported domains on the ISA - may be used, chosen by the party being iden