Re: ordering issues

2011-01-16 Thread Eric MSP Veith
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 15 January 2011, R P Herrold wrote: > 4. foreach ELEMENT in MANIFEST, walk a > rpm -ivh --root=(chroot) --noscripts (ELEMENT) > and identify anything missing, re-order seqecnce to cut noise > if it offends, and tweak steps 2 and 3 a

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-15 Thread R P Herrold
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Matthew Dawkins wrote: The question I have for both Jeff and Per, is flattening initial rpms packages to get these needed pieces in place before and actual chroot install begins and super unacceptable hack? I have no idea what a 'super unacceptable hack' is as a goal good

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-14 Thread devzero2000
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > 2011/1/13 Jeff Johnson : > > > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > > > > >>> Well, I dunno at which time it might've changed, but with rpm 4.6 > >>> Requires(pre,prein,post,postun): were sorted to be ordered before

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jan 13, 2011, at 12:16 PM, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > 2011/1/13 Jeff Johnson : >> >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: >> >>> >> Well, I dunno at which time it might've changed, but with rpm 4.6 >> Requires(pre,prein,post,postun): were sorted to be o

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Matthew Dawkins
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Matthew Dawkins wrote: > > > Per, > > You know what I'd like to see is a list of the ordering done by rpm.organd > the ordering done by rpm5. In my past experience going thru and > eliminating the loops and th

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/1/13 Jeff Johnson : > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > >>> >> > Well, I dunno at which time it might've changed, but with rpm 4.6 > Requires(pre,prein,post,postun): were sorted to be ordered before > Requires:, which is something the packaging in cook

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:42 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: >> > Well, I dunno at which time it might've changed, but with rpm 4.6 Requires(pre,prein,post,postun): were sorted to be ordered before Requires:, which is something the packaging in cooker has been heavily relying

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jan 13, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Matthew Dawkins wrote: > > Per, > > You know what I'd like to see is a list of the ordering done by rpm.org and > the ordering done by rpm5. In my past experience going thru and eliminating > the loops and this very same procedure with Jeff, made me realize that

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/1/13 Jeff Johnson : > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > >>> Well, I dunno at which time it might've changed, but with rpm 4.6 >>> Requires(pre,prein,post,postun): were sorted to be ordered before >>> Requires:, which is something the packaging in cooker has been heavily

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Matthew Dawkins
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:10 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: > > >>> > >> Well, I dunno at which time it might've changed, but with rpm 4.6 > >> Requires(pre,prein,post,postun): were sorted to be ordered before > >> Requires:, which is something the pa

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jan 13, 2011, at 8:49 AM, Jeff Johnson wrote: >>> >> Well, I dunno at which time it might've changed, but with rpm 4.6 >> Requires(pre,prein,post,postun): were sorted to be ordered before >> Requires:, which is something the packaging in cooker has been heavily >> relying on.. > If this is

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jan 13, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > 2011/1/13 Jeff Johnson : >> >> On Jan 13, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: >> >>> >>> But given that Requires(post) indicates that it's required at >>> scriptlet time, shouldn't rpm consider this as coretuils>pam? >>> >> >>

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/1/13 Jeff Johnson : > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > >> >> But given that Requires(post) indicates that it's required at >> scriptlet time, shouldn't rpm consider this as coretuils>pam? >> > > There is no "scriptlet time". > > There are >        1) needed for instal

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jan 13, 2011, at 5:29 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > > But given that Requires(post) indicates that it's required at > scriptlet time, shouldn't rpm consider this as coretuils>pam? > There is no "scriptlet time". There are 1) needed for installing 2) required while install

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/1/13 Jeff Johnson : > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > >> >> So Id say that there's definitively something buggy going on with rpm here.. >> > > Try printing out the LOOP messages you've chosen to hide. > > Then fix your LOOP's. > > If claiming "something buggy going

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Jeff Johnson
On Jan 13, 2011, at 4:24 AM, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > > So Id say that there's definitively something buggy going on with rpm here.. > Try printing out the LOOP messages you've chosen to hide. Then fix your LOOP's. If claiming "something buggy going on with rpm here" makes you feel better

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-13 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/1/12 Per Øyvind Karlsen : > 2011/1/12 Per Øyvind Karlsen : >> I've run into some ordering issues installing into a fresh chroot: >> >> installing findutils-4.5.9-1mdv2011.0.i586.rpm >> nss_tcb-1.0.6-0mdv2011.0.i586.rpm >> cracklib-dicts-2.8.16-2

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-12 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
2011/1/12 Per Øyvind Karlsen : > I've run into some ordering issues installing into a fresh chroot: > > installing findutils-4.5.9-1mdv2011.0.i586.rpm > nss_tcb-1.0.6-0mdv2011.0.i586.rpm > cracklib-dicts-2.8.16-2mdv2011.0.i586.rpm > perl-base-5.12.2-5mdv2011.0.i586.rpm setup

Re: ordering issues

2011-01-12 Thread Matthew Dawkins
On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 1:38 PM, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote: > I've run into some ordering issues installing into a fresh chroot: > > installing findutils-4.5.9-1mdv2011.0.i586.rpm > nss_tcb-1.0.6-0mdv2011.0.i586.rpm > cracklib-dicts-2.8.16-2mdv2011.0.i586.rpm > perl-base-5.1

ordering issues

2011-01-12 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
I've run into some ordering issues installing into a fresh chroot: installing findutils-4.5.9-1mdv2011.0.i586.rpm nss_tcb-1.0.6-0mdv2011.0.i586.rpm cracklib-dicts-2.8.16-2mdv2011.0.i586.rpm perl-base-5.12.2-5mdv2011.0.i586.rpm setup-2.7.18-2mdv2011.0.i586.rpm shadow-utils-4.1.4.2-8mdv2011.0