[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-31 Thread Tarus Balog
Tony Varriale wrote: > Why I think it's wrong? Well...0,1,3,0 isn't even close to the actual > "total drops" which is my goal. When set to GAUGE, it is close and I would > be happy with that as long as I could take the difference between the > current value and the previous and graph the differe

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-31 Thread Simon Hobson
Tony Varriale wrote: >Sorry, I replied to Simon directly... > >> OK, try giving us an example of : >> what you put in >> what you expect to come out >> what you actually get out >> and if the latter two are different, why you think it's wrong ! > >Ok. I am trying to gather and graph dropped

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-31 Thread Alex van den Bogaerdt
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 04:56:23PM -0600, Tony Varriale wrote: > If you aren't willing to assist me, then why be condescending? Why not just > either be helpful or not post? I didn't come here to have people make bad > assumptions and be treated like a jag. I came here because I felt that I'v

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-31 Thread Tony Varriale
> Yeah. Except that this is oversimplified. Really, you can find more > information on normalization and consolidation on my site. I read that. I've read a bunch of stuff. > Stop thinking "n drops". Start thinking "n drops per second". I am. > Everything (!!!) is a rate in rrdtool, and I do

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-31 Thread Tony Varriale
Sorry, I replied to Simon directly... > OK, try giving us an example of : > what you put in > what you expect to come out > what you actually get out > and if the latter two are different, why you think it's wrong ! Ok. I am trying to gather and graph dropped packets in a qos queue on multiple c

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-31 Thread Tony Varriale
..that is what I get. It's really close and I would be fine with that. The problem is that the graph continues to keep going up. tv - Original Message - From: "Simon Hobson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 12:35 PM Subject: [rrd-users] R

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-31 Thread Alex van den Bogaerdt
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 03:10:41PM -0600, Tony Varriale wrote: > > GAUGE is _not_ a value, it is a rate. And it is subject to > > any normalization and consolidation like any other rate. > > Well...I'm really confused. Here is what it's states from the beginner's > guide: > "GAUGE does not s

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-31 Thread Simon Hobson
Tony Varriale wrote: >Ok...well...DERIVE doesn't give me accurate numbers. Not even close. That >is why I am trying to ask the community for a solution to the problem. OK, try giving us an example of : what you put in what you expect to come out what you actually get out and if the latter two a

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-31 Thread Simon Hobson
Tony Varriale wrote: > > Closer, but it uses the values supplied AND THE TIME INTERVALS to >> work out the rate over each interval defined in your rrd. If your >> updates EXACTLY match the time intervals then the rate stored will >> match the value you put in, otherwise it will be adjusted. >

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-31 Thread Tony Varriale
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 2:45 PM Subject: [rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data > On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 10:42:15AM -0600, Tony Varriale wrote: >> > Closer, but it uses the values supplied AND THE TIME INTERVALS to >> > work out the

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-31 Thread Alex van den Bogaerdt
On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 10:42:15AM -0600, Tony Varriale wrote: > > Closer, but it uses the values supplied AND THE TIME INTERVALS to > > work out the rate over each interval defined in your rrd. If your > > updates EXACTLY match the time intervals then the rate stored will > > match the value you p

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-31 Thread Tony Varriale
> Closer, but it uses the values supplied AND THE TIME INTERVALS to > work out the rate over each interval defined in your rrd. If your > updates EXACTLY match the time intervals then the rate stored will > match the value you put in, otherwise it will be adjusted. Right, which is why when I use G

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-30 Thread Simon Hobson
Tony Varriale wrote: >Hi...thanks for the info. I did try DERIVE but I get very inaccurate results. > >For example: >I had about 400 drops in the queue that were generated. The graphs >and data were showing anywhere from 8-16 drops. I again verified >the actual data with a manual snmpwalk. >

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-30 Thread Tony Varriale
Is this not true? Thanks! tv - Original Message - From: "Alex van den Bogaerdt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 30, 2006 6:08 PM Subject: [rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data > On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 05:45:44PM -0600, Tony Varriale wrote: &g

[rrd-users] Re: Manipulating and Graphing Data

2006-10-30 Thread Alex van den Bogaerdt
On Mon, Oct 30, 2006 at 05:45:44PM -0600, Tony Varriale wrote: > I am currently polling a qos drop queue and it returns the correct value. > The values are getting stored correct and everything looks great. No, they ("the values") are not stored. This wrong assumption is probably the foundation