Re: [rspec-users] Introductory recommendations?

2009-12-01 Thread Jon Pincus
Thanks all for the feedback, excellent suggestions! -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. ___ rspec-users mailing list rspec-users@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users

Re: [rspec-users] Introductory recommendations?

2009-11-26 Thread Ashley Moran
On Nov 25, 2009, at 6:38 pm, Matt Wynne wrote: > +1 > > And have a coding dojo ASAP. It's much easier to learn when you're having fun. > > On 25 Nov 2009, at 18:07, Pat Maddox wrote: > >> Pair with them. How big's the team? Lots of ways you can do this. +2 +1 For the pairing, it's the most

Re: [rspec-users] Introductory recommendations?

2009-11-25 Thread Matt Wynne
+1 And have a coding dojo ASAP. It's much easier to learn when you're having fun. On 25 Nov 2009, at 18:07, Pat Maddox wrote: Pair with them. How big's the team? Lots of ways you can do this. If there are 5 other devs, you can pair with one each day, bam, training in a week. If there are

Re: [rspec-users] Introductory recommendations?

2009-11-25 Thread Pat Maddox
Pair with them. How big's the team? Lots of ways you can do this. If there are 5 other devs, you can pair with one each day, bam, training in a week. If there are 10, you pair with 5 for one week, then have those guys pair with the other guys over the next week (rotating every day). Does anybod

Re: [rspec-users] Introductory recommendations?

2009-11-25 Thread Carl Graff
I agree that mocks are one of the harder concepts to grasp. In my case - although I will probably get some flack - I created some simple real objects first, then tried to mimic their behavior with mocks. When you are first leaning sometimes I find it better to start with a known real object th

Re: [rspec-users] Introductory recommendations?

2009-11-21 Thread Jon Pincus
Thanks Andy and Carl. I've bought The RSpec Book and there's a wealth of good information, but the tutorial in Chapter 5 ("Getting Started with RSpec") starts with mock objects and the quirks of should_receive.with ... that seems like a pretty advanced place to start for those who aren't famil

Re: [rspec-users] Introductory recommendations?

2009-11-21 Thread Carl Graff
The RSpec Book from Pragmatic Programmers is excellent IMO. Best, Carl Andy Koch wrote: http://www.pragprog.com/titles/achbd/the-rspec-book On Nov 20, 1:11 pm, Jon Pincus wrote: Hi all, I'm with a team of engineers who are new to RSpec, and I'm looking for some good introductory materia

Re: [rspec-users] Introductory recommendations?

2009-11-21 Thread Andy Koch
http://www.pragprog.com/titles/achbd/the-rspec-book On Nov 20, 1:11 pm, Jon Pincus wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm with a team of engineers who are new to RSpec, and I'm looking for > some good introductory material.  Ideally it would be something like the > two-part Railscast on Cucumber > (http://asc

[rspec-users] Introductory recommendations?

2009-11-20 Thread Jon Pincus
Hi all, I'm with a team of engineers who are new to RSpec, and I'm looking for some good introductory material. Ideally it would be something like the two-part Railscast on Cucumber ( http://asciicasts.com/episodes/155-beginning-with-cucumber ) which doesn't assume detailed knowledge of TDD. I f