Re: [rspec-users] noob question (trying to understand view specs vs webrat and cucumber)...

2009-07-16 Thread Matt Wynne
On 16 Jul 2009, at 17:28, internetchris wrote: Very nice the ability to see your workflow helps me a ton. I guess I needed to see what other developers did. I have a project that I started, but then quit until I nailed down the testing. I will have to catch up on the code I have already wri

Re: [rspec-users] noob question (trying to understand view specs vs webrat and cucumber)...

2009-07-16 Thread internetchris
Very nice the ability to see your workflow helps me a ton. I guess I needed to see what other developers did. I have a project that I started, but then quit until I nailed down the testing. I will have to catch up on the code I have already written, but I'm grasping the cucumber and rspec corre

Re: [rspec-users] noob question (trying to understand view specs vs webrat and cucumber)...

2009-07-15 Thread Andrew Timberlake
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 7:46 AM, internetchris wrote: > Tom, > > I appreciate the reply... > > So would I be correct in saying that I should develop all of my spec > tests first, and then finish it up by running some cucumber tests? > > Thanks! > > Chris > Chris If you follow strict Behaviour Dri

Re: [rspec-users] noob question (trying to understand view specs vs webrat and cucumber)...

2009-07-15 Thread Tom Stuart
Hi Chris, On 16 Jul 2009, at 06:46, internetchris wrote: So would I be correct in saying that I should develop all of my spec tests first, and then finish it up by running some cucumber tests? You can do whatever you like. This is certainly a valid way of working, and as a testing strateg

Re: [rspec-users] noob question (trying to understand view specs vs webrat and cucumber)...

2009-07-15 Thread internetchris
Tom, I appreciate the reply... So would I be correct in saying that I should develop all of my spec tests first, and then finish it up by running some cucumber tests? Thanks! Chris On Jul 15, 11:34 pm, Tom Stuart wrote: > Hi Chris, > > On 16 Jul 2009, at 04:14, Chris Sund wrote: > > > Can som

Re: [rspec-users] noob question (trying to understand view specs vs webrat and cucumber)...

2009-07-15 Thread Tom Stuart
Hi Chris, On 16 Jul 2009, at 04:14, Chris Sund wrote: Can someone clarify in "simple" terms the relationship between rspec and cucumber. Very short answer: RSpec is for specifying the behaviour of individual pieces of your application, ideally in isolation from all of the other pieces. The

[rspec-users] noob question (trying to understand view specs vs webrat and cucumber)...

2009-07-15 Thread Chris Sund
Hey Everyone, I've been reading the rspec book, and I'm trying to tie everything together, but I'm a little confused. Keep in mind this is my first introduction to TDD/BDD. When it came to testing my rails app I jumped into learning rspec before I ever tried to using any of the built in test:unit

Re: [rspec-users] Noob question

2009-04-29 Thread Korny Sietsma
We did think about using JRuby to write data through the domain - unfortunately it looked fiddly, especially as there are quite a few things our ruby code wants to do that the domain doesn't cover. For example, mass deleting data - in the domain, almost everything is soft-deleted, and everything g

Re: [rspec-users] Noob question

2009-04-29 Thread Ben Mabey
Korny Sietsma wrote: We are actively debating this very topic :) For most stuff, we create data through the UI. We have a "Before" block that prunes the database back to a known state before each scenario, using the ruby 'sequel' library. It's pretty fast, but it does mean we have to be carefu

Re: [rspec-users] Noob question

2009-04-29 Thread Korny Sietsma
We are actively debating this very topic :) For most stuff, we create data through the UI. We have a "Before" block that prunes the database back to a known state before each scenario, using the ruby 'sequel' library. It's pretty fast, but it does mean we have to be careful in our selenium, that

Re: [rspec-users] Noob question

2009-04-29 Thread Ben Mabey
Korny Sietsma wrote: True, but cucumber is useful for lots of different kinds of projects. I'm currently using it to build a java webapp, so I don't need much beyond cucumber, selenium, and selenium-client. I'm curious, with your current setup do you insert data directly into your database (i

Re: [rspec-users] Noob question

2009-04-29 Thread Korny Sietsma
True, but cucumber is useful for lots of different kinds of projects. I'm currently using it to build a java webapp, so I don't need much beyond cucumber, selenium, and selenium-client. But agreed, if I was in rails-land (sigh) then I'd want webrat and rspec-rails. - Korny p.s. I'm aware webrat w

Re: [rspec-users] Noob question

2009-04-29 Thread John Ivanoff
the book The RSpec book has an example where they build an app with just ruby. ("Describing Application Behaviour with Cucumber") You can download some sample chapters. http://www.pragprog.com/titles/achbd/the-rspec-book This has been a big help for me. also Railscast (http://railscasts.com/) has

Re: [rspec-users] Noob question

2009-04-29 Thread Chris Flipse
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:42 AM, Korny Sietsma wrote: > Presumably you only need these if you are *building* cucumber? > > If you just want to use cucumber, it should be as simple as "gem > install cucumber", and it should get all the other dependencies. On > my machine it seemed to install tree

Re: [rspec-users] Noob question

2009-04-29 Thread Korny Sietsma
Presumably you only need these if you are *building* cucumber? If you just want to use cucumber, it should be as simple as "gem install cucumber", and it should get all the other dependencies. On my machine it seemed to install treetop, polyglot, and presumably a few others - but I don't have rsp

Re: [rspec-users] Noob question

2009-04-29 Thread WJSimacek
There's about 3 more gems you need to install. RSpec, RSpec-rails and WebRat. There's also a great introductory article I found on-line at http://blog.rubyyot.com/2009/01/chores-a-test-driven-website/ I'm only half-step ahead of you and feel your pain. Good luck, Wayne On Apr 28, 12:47 pm, "Sophi

[rspec-users] Noob question

2009-04-28 Thread Sophie (itsme213)
Just getting started with cucumber on Mac 10.5.6. I have the default Ruby install (1.8). I'm not using Rails. I did a gem update cucumber and now have cucumber-0.3.1 in my gems. I also did a git clone and have a repo with cucumber 0.3.2. When I cd into my cucumber (git) directory and do: c

Re: [rspec-users] noob question for getting true or false from a function

2008-04-29 Thread Patrick Aljord
ok thanks a lot. ___ rspec-users mailing list rspec-users@rubyforge.org http://rubyforge.org/mailman/listinfo/rspec-users

Re: [rspec-users] noob question for getting true or false from a function

2008-04-29 Thread Helder Ribeiro
On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 3:06 AM, David Chelimsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Apr 29, 2008, at 12:59 AM, Patrick Aljord wrote: > > > > Hey all, > > > > I have an action that looks like this: > > > > def create > > if using_open_id? > > open_id_authentication(params[:openid_url]) > > els

Re: [rspec-users] noob question for getting true or false from a function

2008-04-28 Thread David Chelimsky
On Apr 29, 2008, at 12:59 AM, Patrick Aljord wrote: Hey all, I have an action that looks like this: def create if using_open_id? open_id_authentication(params[:openid_url]) else password_authentication(params[:email], params[:password]) end end I have a spec that looks li

[rspec-users] noob question for getting true or false from a function

2008-04-28 Thread Patrick Aljord
Hey all, I have an action that looks like this: def create if using_open_id? open_id_authentication(params[:openid_url]) else password_authentication(params[:email], params[:password]) end end I have a spec that looks like this: it "should login and redirect" do