Re: [Rails-core] Re: Please, keep changing!

2012-03-01 Thread Xavier Noria
Keeping backwards compatibility and moving forward are contrary goals pulling from each other. Rails tries to keep a balance while leaning on the side of moving forward. Some people like that, some people don't. There's no solution to that conflict. Rodrigo I personally appreciate a lot your emai

Re: [Rails-core] Re: Please, keep changing!

2012-03-01 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thu, March 1, 2012 15:03, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote: > > I do respect their opinion. I just think I should state > my opinion too so that their opinion don't become the > only one. I doubt that will ever be the case. There seems to be some number of people that believe that Rails works we

[Rails-core] Re: Please, keep changing!

2012-03-01 Thread Consu
hi, until now, I was only a reader, but this thread bother's me. On Mar 1, 9:43 pm, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote: >  From both articles, I've understood that they would prefer Rails to be > more backward compatible in new releases. I would prefer it. It's not only a rails issue, also a plugin

Re: [Rails-core] Please, keep changing!

2012-03-01 Thread Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas
From both articles, I've understood that they would prefer Rails to be more backward compatible in new releases. I know you want to listen to their critics and that is exactly the reason that I felt I should state that I prefer the API to be changed to better in major releases instead of worry

Re: [Rails-core] Please, keep changing!

2012-03-01 Thread Santiago Pastorino
Just to say that we shouldn't care when people try to offend, BUT even if someone is doing that we should definitely listen to critics, try to improve what is wrong and not being :emo: about that. Anyway I didn't find any of the posts as personal attacks or bad suited but perhaps is just me. Chee

[Rails-core] Re: Bug in nested_attributes_for: question about best way to patch

2012-03-01 Thread James Coleman
I discovered the bug is also with has_many items (contrary to my original post.) I've submitted this as a bug with test cases at https://github.com/rails/rails/issues/5235 I'd appreciate guidance on that issue. On Feb 23, 12:51 pm, James Coleman wrote: > I've discovered what I'm pretty confide

Re: [Rails-core] Please, keep changing!

2012-03-01 Thread Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas
Em 01-03-2012 16:59, James B. Byrne escreveu: On Thursday, 1 March 2012 at 15:52, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote: I've been reading lots of articles criticizing Rails in the last days. What articles are those? The most recent and famous ones are: http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.com/2012/02/rail

Re: [Rails-core] Please, keep changing!

2012-03-01 Thread James B. Byrne
On Thursday, 1 March 2012 at 15:52, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote: > I've been reading lots of articles criticizing Rails > in the last days. > What articles are those? -- *** E-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** James B. Byrnemailto:byrn...@harte-lyne.ca Har

Re: [Rails-core] Please, keep changing!

2012-03-01 Thread Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas
Hehe, it should be the same with regards to its philosophy of keep changing for better instead of avoid changes due to backward compatibilities concerns. Em 01-03-2012 16:48, Guilherme Dutra escreveu: Did you mean that Rails would keep changing or would be the same? You weren't clear about tha

[Rails-core] Re: Serving database ba(c)ked templates and assets

2012-03-01 Thread Walther Diechmann
One very in-elegant way of working around this obstacle would be to add match 'assets/*:id', to: 'assets#serve' to my config/routes.rb, add a helper to list all required assets in the def asset_to_head(asset) # write https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rubyonrails-core/-/3kyViXa_u8cJ. To post

[Rails-core] [ANN] Rails 3.2.2 has been released!

2012-03-01 Thread Aaron Patterson
Rails 3.2.2 has been released. This release contains various bug fixes and two important security fixes. All users are recommended to upgrade as soon as possible. ## CHANGES For information regarding the possible vulnerabilities, please see the announcements here: http://groups.google.com/g

[Rails-core] [ANN] Rails 3.1.4 has been released!

2012-03-01 Thread Aaron Patterson
Rails 3.1.4 has been released. This release contains various bug fixes and two important security fixes. All users are recommended to upgrade as soon as possible. ## CHANGES For information regarding the possible vulnerabilities, please see the announcements here: http://groups.google.com/g

[Rails-core] [ANN] Rails 3.0.12 has been released!

2012-03-01 Thread Aaron Patterson
Rails 3.0.12 has been released. This release contains various bug fixes and two important security fixes. All users are recommended to upgrade as soon as possible. ## CHANGES For information regarding the possible vulnerabilities, please see the announcements here: http://groups.google.com/

Re: [Rails-core] Please, keep changing!

2012-03-01 Thread Joel Moss
ditto!! Good job guys! -- Joel Moss Develop with Style at http://DevelopWithStyle.com === Call me +44 7791 503309 http://twitter.com/joelmoss AIM: joelkmoss Skype: joelmoss.info On Thursday, 1 March 2012 at 15:52, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas wrote: > I've been read

[Rails-core] Please, keep changing!

2012-03-01 Thread Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas
I've been reading lots of articles criticizing Rails in the last days. I'd just like you to know there are lots of people that are actually happy with the way Rails is currently doing. I'm one of them. I did find very valuable all the work put in Rails 3 and I find it much better organized t