[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-05 Thread Eloy Duran
I apologize if anything I said seemed insulting or disrespectful - I would never be my intention. -- Cezary Bagiński There's no need for that as far as I can tell. We we're just having a discussion :) Eloy --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-05 Thread Chad Woolley
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Eloy Duran eloy.de.en...@gmail.com wrote: I liked the idea of sending the email to the commit author, as Hudson apparently does as described by Joris. And as I do share concerns about the robustness of the Rails code, I wrote a patch for CruiseControl to be

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Mislav Marohnić
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 19:32, Chad Woolley thewoolley...@gmail.com wrote: 3. Help fix the build :) If there are three commits—A, B and C, where A breaks the build and B,C are unrelated—I'm wondering why should CI send out emails for errors in B and C when it detected them in A. In other

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Nicolás Sanguinetti
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:50 AM, Mislav Marohnićmislav.maroh...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 19:32, Chad Woolley thewoolley...@gmail.com wrote: 3. Help fix the build :) If there are three commits—A, B and C, where A breaks the build and B,C are unrelated—I'm wondering why should

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Mike Gunderloy
On Sep 4, 2009, at 7:30 AM, Nicolás Sanguinetti wrote: Don't forget the build is broken, thus, spam you with emails until someone drags his ass over and fixes the build The problem with the spam emails approach is that people will treat them as spam. I don't know what the answer is, but I

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Eloy Duran
I tend to print them out, beat them with a stick before I set them on fire, unfortunately gmail was unable to automate this process for me. Seriously though, I think you're right Mike. Actually, I can assure you I know of at least a few people who have unsubscribed from the list because of

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Nicolás Sanguinetti
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Eloy Duraneloy.de.en...@gmail.com wrote: I tend to print them out, beat them with a stick before I set them on fire, unfortunately gmail was unable to automate this process for me. Seriously though, I think you're right Mike. Actually, I can assure you I know

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Joris Verschoor
+1 2009/9/4 Nicolás Sanguinetti godf...@gmail.com: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Eloy Duraneloy.de.en...@gmail.com wrote: I tend to print them out, beat them with a stick before I set them on fire, unfortunately gmail was unable to automate this process for me. Seriously though, I

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Rob Biedenharn
On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:57 AM, Nicolás Sanguinetti wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:47 AM, Eloy Duraneloy.de.en...@gmail.com wrote: I tend to print them out, beat them with a stick before I set them on fire, unfortunately gmail was unable to automate this process for me. Seriously though,

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Eloy Duran
Dude, This is a list for discussions, and I'm hear to see if people might have problems with code that I wrote for Rails, not for fun. Please take your patronizing comments to the playground, you have added 0.0 to this discussion. Eloy On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Rob Biedenharn wrote:

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Eloy Duran
Argh, obviously I meant here. On Sep 4, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Eloy Duran wrote: Dude, This is a list for discussions, and I'm hear to see if people might have problems with code that I wrote for Rails, not for fun. Please take your patronizing comments to the playground, you have added

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Ken Collins
I agree with Rob that this list is the right place for it. It's easy for individuals to opt out by setting up a mail filter. Takes 2 seconds. - Ken On Sep 4, 2009, at 9:04 AM, Rob Biedenharn wrote: On Sep 4, 2009, at 8:57 AM, Nicolás Sanguinetti wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 9:47

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Eloy Duran
Hey Ken, Sure it's 2 seconds of work to setup a mail filter, but so is signing up for a specialized mailing list. So that doesn't make it a good reason. I wouldn't be bothered by these CI emails if we'd see one every now and then. But nowadays, it seems like every other build is broken.

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Joris Verschoor
We use hudson, and we're very happy with it. It can be configured to only email to the person who broke the build. Aside from that, the annoying part is indeed that the build is broken every hour. On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 16:11, Eloy Duraneloy.de.en...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Ken, Sure it's 2

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Chad Woolley
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Eloy Duran eloy.de.en...@gmail.com wrote: I wouldn't be bothered by these CI emails if we'd see one every now and then. But nowadays, it seems like every other build is broken. That's the real problem here. Thanks for the feedback, everyone. FWIW, this is not

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Mateo Murphy
On 4-Sep-09, at 12:55 PM, Chad Woolley wrote: However, not fixing the build promptly is a problem, and one of the reasons I wanted to reinstate notifications to this list. On a large/distributed project like Rails - especially one where many people run the master branch live in their

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Czarek
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 02:02:46PM -0400, Mateo Murphy wrote: On 4-Sep-09, at 12:55 PM, Chad Woolley wrote: However, not fixing the build promptly is a problem, and one of the reasons I wanted to reinstate notifications to this list. On a large/distributed project like Rails -

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Chad Woolley
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Czarek cezary.bagin...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps a timeout within which the build should be fixed? I mean it doesn't take hours for CI to detect the problem. And then mail if fix doesn't come in time. That's a good idea. How about this: 1. The first three red

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Czarek
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 12:52:10PM -0700, Chad Woolley wrote: I don't believe committers will want to create and subscribe to a separate list. And this is *their* mailing list. Then again, the rest of us may want to know if we should pull or not. If the rails core list isn't a place to

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-04 Thread Czarek
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 12:52:10PM -0700, Chad Woolley wrote: On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Czarek cezary.bagin...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps a timeout within which the build should be fixed? I mean it doesn't take hours for CI to detect the problem. And then mail if fix doesn't come in

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-03 Thread Chad Woolley
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Czarek cezary.bagin...@gmail.com wrote: Am I overreacting or is anyone else a tiny bit annoyed by the size of these emails? If you're mobile with a GSM card out of UTMS range , you have around 4-8kB/s, and 70kB per mail is a noticeable wait. The summary at

[Rails-core] Re: Long CruiseControl notifications are irritating ...

2009-09-03 Thread Czarek
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 10:32:35AM -0700, Chad Woolley wrote: On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Czarek [1]cezary.bagin...@gmail.com wrote: Am I overreacting or is anyone else a tiny bit annoyed by the size of these emails? If you're mobile with a GSM card out of UTMS range ,