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Rob Lacey wrote in post #964320:
> Without opening a debate on the issue. I find the whole bad form,
> conventions as interesting as it is frustrating. I need to re-use this
> button helper in many views several times over for several different
> buttons. Say...
>
> <%= button_helper(:fruit) %>
> <%= button_helper(:fungi) %>
> <%= button_helper(:tree) %>
>
> which would require calling initialize on Fungi, Fruit, Tree objects
> within the helper.

No!  Never initialize model objects in the helper or view.  The helper 
and view should *always* get their model objects from the controller.

> If you assigned an instance variable in each
> controller action for everytime you used the helper you'd actually
> make re-using the code in many different places more awkward.

Then you can use a before_filter.

> Not to
> mention if the number and type of buttons was also dynamic.

Easy.  Set that all in the controller.  If you're having trouble with a 
particular case, please post details.

> Conventions are a good building block, but on occasion you may need to
> stray from them to make life easier.

Not until you fully understand how to work with them.  And the 
convention in Rails MVC architecture is that it is *never* appropriate 
for the model and view/helper to talk to each other.  The controller 
*must* mediate.
>
> Do you know of any 'Bad Form vs Good Form' Rails articles, I'd be
> interested in ready some.

Look up articles on Rails MVC.

>
> RobL

Best,
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