Re: [rules-users] Upgrade options and considerations

2013-04-11 Thread Grant Rettke
> So that would be my tip … unless you're experiencing problems on 5.3 that > were resolved in 5.4, just hang fire on the effort of upgrading until a patch > or > two have gone out on 5.5. How far behind the latest release do folks usually lag? I'm just curious as I'm used to trying to stay curr

Re: [rules-users] How to determine which rules fired under what conditions, for testing

2013-03-26 Thread Grant Rettke
, Magnarelli, James wrote: > Though all of those are worthy pursuits, I want to do it in the sense of > unit testing to make sure that I have defined the rule correctly. > > Thanks for your rapid response, by the way. I really appreciate it. > > -- James > > > > > >

Re: [rules-users] How to determine which rules fired under what conditions, for testing

2013-03-26 Thread Grant Rettke
e Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users -- Grant Rettke | ACM, AMA, COG, IEEE gret...@acm.org | http://www.wisdo

Re: [rules-users] Expert Systems and Functional programming?

2013-03-15 Thread Grant Rettke
>> >>>>>> There is this production rule system where you can write your rules >>>>>> embedded in compiling units, and alongside the legacy program units, of >>>>>> a >>>>>> procedural, modular, strongly type HLL, and where you use expressions >>>>>> in >>>>

Re: [rules-users] Instant Drools Starter : Pack Publishing (Jeremy Ary)

2013-03-12 Thread Grant Rettke
On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 10:00 AM, Mark Proctor wrote: > http://blog.athico.com/2013/03/instant-drools-starter-pack-publishing.html Nice! Just ordered it. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/r

Re: [rules-users] Expert Systems and Functional programming?

2013-03-11 Thread Grant Rettke
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Mark Proctor wrote: > For instance here is an idea I've been mulling over recently (note just > random ideas, not roadmap). We don't have > the resources to completely compete against other languages, and I'm not sure > we should do. With Java8 and 9 it > starts

Re: [rules-users] Expert Systems and Functional programming?

2013-03-10 Thread Grant Rettke
On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 2:44 PM, Matteo Mortari wrote: > The Question I'm asking myself: is there a specific, or few, areas where > Functional Programming could actually benefit Expert Systems so much to > actually spawn new paradigms of writing Rules? Or benefit in a new > generation of the Rete a

Re: [rules-users] Evaluate rules for multiple facts of the same type within a StateuflSession

2013-02-08 Thread Grant Rettke
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 12:47 PM, Wolfgang Laun wrote: > I dislike the artificial creation of mysteries - as if we hadn't enough > without. > Who says it was artificially created?! ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jb

Re: [rules-users] Guvnor-5.5

2013-02-07 Thread Grant Rettke
6999.n3.nabble.com/Guvnor-5-5-tp4022096p4022142.html > Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-user

Re: [rules-users] Guvnor-5.5

2013-02-07 Thread Grant Rettke
On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Stephen Masters wrote: > I'd probably recommend using Drools Expert within your application on WAS, > and stick with running Guvnor on Tomcat, as it does't need to be part of a > 'production' installation. > IBM shops typically disallow running non-IBM software. _

[rules-users] Favorite rules blogs and other media?

2013-02-06 Thread Grant Rettke
Hi, I'm new to the topic and wondering what blogs and other media that you enjoy on the topic? Grant ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Re: [rules-users] Drools Clips

2013-02-02 Thread Grant Rettke
On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 3:27 AM, Wolfgang Laun wrote: > On 01/02/2013, Mark Proctor wrote: >> >> On 1 Feb 2013, at 13:59, Grant Rettke wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Mark Proctor >>> wrote: >>>> It was only a POC that partially

Re: [rules-users] Drools Clips

2013-02-01 Thread Grant Rettke
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 6:52 PM, Mark Proctor wrote: > It was only a POC that partially worked, and then stopped working, so I > removed it. No one was using it, or came forward to help develop it, so > figured it was kinder to put it > out of its misery. I see. How much interest was there in i

Re: [rules-users] Drools Clips

2013-01-31 Thread Grant Rettke
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 10:18 AM, Wolfgang Laun wrote: > It's like this famous torso of Praxiteles: Thanks! lol ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

[rules-users] Drools Clips

2013-01-31 Thread Grant Rettke
Hi, Anyone using or have used Drools Clips before? If so, what is your opinion of it? If not, why not? I'm pretty curious about it and wanted to start here before pinging the dev list on who is maintaining it (nor not). Best wishes, -- Grant Rettke | ACM, AMA, COG, IEEE gret...@acm.org |

Re: [rules-users] Non short circuit ANDing

2013-01-31 Thread Grant Rettke
On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 3:49 AM, Stephen Masters wrote: > fyi - if you're just learning your way around working memory event listeners > and the like, here's some example code. It's an extended version of > something I found in the Drools docs. Cool. Thanks for the code. The discussion has got m

Re: [rules-users] Non short circuit ANDing

2013-01-30 Thread Grant Rettke
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Cotton, Ben wrote: > this "when do rules fail to fire?" pattern seems to be an important one for > those with > detailed accounting/audit use case requirements. But, it is a pattern that > is (currently) a > laborious key-stroke intensive "burden" (too strong a

Re: [rules-users] Non short circuit ANDing

2013-01-30 Thread Grant Rettke
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Re: [rules-users] Non short circuit ANDing

2013-01-30 Thread Grant Rettke
On Wed, Jan 30, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Cotton, Ben wrote: > Would it be reasonable to suggest that the Drools team provide the user > community with some tool, API, or other framework construct that might > assist us when we are faced with this exact task? I'm studying rules engines. This desire seems

Re: [rules-users] Non short circuit ANDing

2013-01-30 Thread Grant Rettke
On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:48 PM, Wolfgang Laun wrote: > Red Hat reps promised the White Paper for today. Cool. Where? ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users

Re: [rules-users] Non short circuit ANDing

2013-01-29 Thread Grant Rettke
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Re: [rules-users] Capturing condition/constraint evaluation results

2013-01-28 Thread Grant Rettke
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 5:50 PM, katvik wrote: > I think I am looking for "detect whenever a constraint is not satisfied", as > I need to simply provide the reasons why rule has no resulted in an action. It sounds like the simple answer is to do like Wolfgang said; hacking the internals sounds t

Re: [rules-users] Capturing condition/constraint evaluation results

2013-01-28 Thread Grant Rettke
n3.nabble.com/Capturing-condition-constraint-evaluation-results-tp4021831.html >> Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ___ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >> http