Re: [sage-devel] segfault after sage -upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3

2010-06-05 Thread François Bissey
> You could also try > >sage -ba > > which will rebuild from scratch all Cython code. OK I will give it a go. > If you have an SMP machine, do >export MAKE="make -j10" > , where 10 is the number of cores, first. For example, on > sage.math.washington.edu, I > do "make -j24" and can bui

Re: [sage-devel] segfault after sage -upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3

2010-06-05 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 11:49 PM, François Bissey wrote: >> It couldn't hurt to force a rebuild of pynac (or failing that Python). >> >>    sage -f pynac-0.2.0.p3 >> >> >> Fortunately, whatever happened isn't going to happen to *everybody*. >> I tested upgrading from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3 on our developme

Re: [sage-devel] segfault after sage -upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3

2010-06-05 Thread François Bissey
> It couldn't hurt to force a rebuild of pynac (or failing that Python). > >sage -f pynac-0.2.0.p3 > > > Fortunately, whatever happened isn't going to happen to *everybody*. > I tested upgrading from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3 on our development server, and > it worked fine. No luck with that. I even tr

Re: [sage-devel] Re: new paper on sage by myself and Burcin Erocal

2010-06-05 Thread Mike Hansen
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:34 PM, rjf wrote: > I think the right way to install maxima is to open a command window > and type > > sudo apt-get maxima > > I don't recall doing anything more, but I may have had to type an > administrator password. This only works if you have the administrator access

[sage-devel] Re: Cached permutation groups

2010-06-05 Thread Rob Beezer
Robert, Thanks for the confirmation - I figured that was one of the possibilities. Rob On Jun 5, 9:35 pm, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Jun 5, 2010, at 8:49 PM, Rob Beezer wrote: > > > > > Consider > > > sage: G = SymmetricGroup(2) > > sage: elements = G.list() > > sage: elements.remove(G("()"))

Re: [sage-devel] segfault after sage -upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3

2010-06-05 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:41 PM, François Bissey wrote: > ./sage > -- > | Sage Version 4.4.3, Release Date: 2010-06-04                       | > | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.        | > -

[sage-devel] segfault after sage -upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3

2010-06-05 Thread François Bissey
./sage -- | Sage Version 4.4.3, Release Date: 2010-06-04 | | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.| -- --

Re: [sage-devel] Cached permutation groups

2010-06-05 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jun 5, 2010, at 8:49 PM, Rob Beezer wrote: Consider sage: G = SymmetricGroup(2) sage: elements = G.list() sage: elements.remove(G("()")) sage: K = SymmetricGroup(2) sage: K.list() [(1,2)] Notice K lacks the identity permutation. I'd at least expect K to be a "new" undisturbed version o

[sage-devel] Cached permutation groups

2010-06-05 Thread Rob Beezer
Consider sage: G = SymmetricGroup(2) sage: elements = G.list() sage: elements.remove(G("()")) sage: K = SymmetricGroup(2) sage: K.list() [(1,2)] Notice K lacks the identity permutation. I'd at least expect K to be a "new" undisturbed version of S_2. Is there some overly-aggressive caching h

[sage-devel] Re: new paper on sage by myself and Burcin Erocal

2010-06-05 Thread rjf
On Jun 5, 5:30 pm, Harald Schilly wrote: < long horror story, snipped> > Maybe I was on the completely wrong maxima page, but that was what > happened when i tried to get a maxima binary. > > h I think the right way to install maxima is to open a command window and type sudo apt-get maxima I

[sage-devel] Re: new paper on sage by myself and Burcin Erocal

2010-06-05 Thread Harald Schilly
On Jun 5, 6:02 pm, rjf wrote: > Loading and running Sage is apparently a challenge for some people. > I do not have any experience trying that myself, nor do I have recent > experience downloading any Axiom variant.  I do, however, have recent > experience downloading Maxima on ubuntu, Windows XP,

[sage-devel] Re: vote on moving Sage's IRC channel over to #sagemath

2010-06-05 Thread Harald Schilly
> which I believe he is the channel operator true, and some others are, too. On Jun 5, 3:03 pm, Volker Braun wrote: > The system in place to officially register a channel name is described > here:http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml > I tried 2 month or more ago, got no answer. Maybe som

[sage-devel] Re: error with WittDesign.. Coming from Gap ?...

2010-06-05 Thread Dima Pasechnik
William, one can just do (at sage prompt) sage: install_package('gap_packages-4.4.12.p0') "design" is a GAP package that is a part of optional spkg 'gap_packages-4.4.12.p0' HTH, Dmitrii On Jun 5, 6:37 pm, William Laffin wrote: > Hi Nathann, > > I'm trying to work on a better class hierarchy f

[sage-devel] Re: error with WittDesign.. Coming from Gap ?...

2010-06-05 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Hi Nathann, you need to load the package explicitly: sage: gap.load_package("design") sage: WittDesign(23) Incidence structure with 23 points and 253 blocks sage: and GAP package "design" is in an optional spkg gap_packages-... sage: optional_packages() (['database_gap-4.4.12.p0', 'gap_packages-

Re: [sage-devel] Sage prerequisites (bzip2)

2010-06-05 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 11:05 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:21 PM, William Stein wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 9:07 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:44 PM, William Stein wrote: On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Ondrej Certik wrote: >>

Re: [sage-devel] Can someone close these two tickets

2010-06-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 06/ 5/10 08:31 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:25 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: Could someone please close these two tickets. #7826 and #8416 Both have issues which are resolved. Done. Thank you Minh. Dave -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegr

Re: [sage-devel] Can someone close these two tickets

2010-06-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
On Sun, Jun 6, 2010 at 5:25 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > Could someone please close these two tickets. > > #7826 and #8416 > > Both have issues which are resolved. Done. -- Regards Minh Van Nguyen -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this

[sage-devel] Can someone close these two tickets

2010-06-05 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
Could someone please close these two tickets. #7826 and #8416 Both have issues which are resolved. Dave -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this

Re: [sage-devel] Re: error with WittDesign.. Coming from Gap ?...

2010-06-05 Thread Nathann Cohen
Thank yo !!! I'm not *that* versed into designs but if I can be of some help, for example by reviewing your tickets, don't hesitate to send me an email, I'll gladly open books to learn what I will need to do it ! :-) Nathann -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups

[sage-devel] Re: vote on moving Sage's IRC channel over to #sagemath

2010-06-05 Thread Nathann Cohen
+1 to #sagemath, as long as I can still come beg for help when writing patches :-) Nathann -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http:/

Re: [sage-devel] Re: new paper on sage by myself and Burcin Erocal

2010-06-05 Thread Sazzad
> > Let's get to work > +100 -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.o

Re: [sage-devel] Re: new paper on sage by myself and Burcin Erocal

2010-06-05 Thread Tom Boothby
> Let's get to work. +1 -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org

Re: [sage-devel] Re: new paper on sage by myself and Burcin Erocal

2010-06-05 Thread William Stein
> (but perhaps this quarrel with GMP has been resolved? I have not > followed it closely.) It has been resolved. Check http://gmplib.org/. You'll find that all the accusations an insinuations by the main GMP developer directed at the MPIR project have been removed. >> Some people find all of th

Re: [sage-devel] Re: error with WittDesign.. Coming from Gap ?...

2010-06-05 Thread William Laffin
Hi Nathann, I'm trying to work on a better class hierarchy for designs in sage right now actually. (Group divisible designs? _colored_ group divisible designs? t-wise balanced designs? Any of the other chapters/sections in the CRC? and why is the hadamard matricies/latin squares code separated? )

Re: [sage-devel] new paper on sage by myself and Burcin Erocal

2010-06-05 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:21 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 12:10:25PM -0700, William Stein wrote: >> It's also interesting how the paper says on page 54 that MuPAD >> "promised to remain >> relatively open..." and "They also have promised to release the code >> source  of t

Re: [sage-devel] Re: new paper on sage by myself and Burcin Erocal

2010-06-05 Thread William Stein
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 9:42 AM, rjf wrote: > > > On Jun 4, 9:22 am, William Stein wrote: > >> >> Give me a break.  That's like asking: "How can one honestly claim, >> as a benefit of publishing proofs, that 'anyone can see the proof' >> when it appears that experts have difficulty even in re

Re: [sage-devel] new paper on sage by myself and Burcin Erocal

2010-06-05 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 12:10:25PM -0700, William Stein wrote: > It's also interesting how the paper says on page 54 that MuPAD > "promised to remain > relatively open..." and "They also have promised to release the code > source of the library under a well known open-source license, some > day."

Re: [sage-devel] new paper on sage by myself and Burcin Erocal

2010-06-05 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote: > On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 12:11:12PM -0700, William Stein wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mike Hansen wrote: >> > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:01 PM, William Stein wrote: >> >>  http://mupad-combinat.sourceforge.net/#sage_days_7 >>

Re: [sage-devel] new paper on sage by myself and Burcin Erocal

2010-06-05 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 12:11:12PM -0700, William Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Mike Hansen wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 12:01 PM, William Stein wrote: > >>  http://mupad-combinat.sourceforge.net/#sage_days_7 > >> > >> at the sage days 7 site just times out > > > > I just c

[sage-devel] Re: new paper on sage by myself and Burcin Erocal

2010-06-05 Thread rjf
On Jun 4, 11:24 am, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > Maybe you're claiming that Sage offers no advantage over completely   > closed systems or manually managing fragmented, hard to configure,   > specialized libraries, but I think both are (huge) steps in a good   > direction. I made no such claim.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Tab completion finds methods that don't seem to exist

2010-06-05 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 09:44:11AM -0400, Jason Bandlow wrote: > Thanks Simon and Florent, > > This is now http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/9138 . Thanks. I renamed this ticket to "Categories for polynomial rings", following all the other "Categories for ..." tickets. Polynomial rings s

[sage-devel] Re: Release management best practices and tools

2010-06-05 Thread Jason Grout
On 06/05/2010 08:07 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi Robert, On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: Perhaps we could take advantage of http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/CompileFarm occasionally as well? We could. But first we need to request that gfortran be installed on the GCC Compile F

Re: [sage-devel] Release management best practices and tools

2010-06-05 Thread David Kirkby
On 5 June 2010 10:44, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:55 AM, David Kirkby wrote: > Fortunately, most patches only involve rebuilding a small number of files > (potentially just pure Python in the Sage library), so a full rebuild would > not be needed. But a lot of standard .spkg fil

Re: [sage-devel] Release management best practices and tools

2010-06-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Robert, On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > Perhaps we could take > advantage of http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/CompileFarm occasionally as well? We could. But first we need to request that gfortran be installed on the GCC Compile Farm. I recently tested building Sage 4.4.2 o

[sage-devel] Re: vote on moving Sage's IRC channel over to #sagemath

2010-06-05 Thread Volker Braun
The system in place to officially register a channel name is described here: http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml > [X] Yes, let's move over to #sagemath. > [] No, let's stick to #sage-devel. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this

[sage-devel] vote on moving Sage's IRC channel over to #sagemath

2010-06-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, People who visit Sage's IRC channel #sage-devel would notice that the forum's topic is woefully out of date. As I understand it, no one in #sage-devel has the power to change the topic. My impression is that the Sage community (or at least myself) is/am being held captive by a channel th

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-release] Re: sage-4.4.3 (final)

2010-06-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Leif, On Sat, Jun 5, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Nathan O'Treally wrote: > Can someone also move the source and tarballs to > > http://modular.math.washington.edu/home/release/4.4.3 > > and update > > http://modular.math.washington.edu/home/release/latest/ ? See http://sage.math.washington.edu/home

Re: [sage-devel] Release management best practices and tools

2010-06-05 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Jun 5, 2010, at 1:55 AM, David Kirkby wrote: Many years ago I developed some software based on finite differences to determine the impedance of an arbitrary shaped transmission line. http://atlc.sourceforge.net/ That code is highly portable - it has been run by me on a Cray supercomputer,

[sage-devel] Release management best practices and tools

2010-06-05 Thread David Kirkby
Many years ago I developed some software based on finite differences to determine the impedance of an arbitrary shaped transmission line. http://atlc.sourceforge.net/ That code is highly portable - it has been run by me on a Cray supercomputer, and by someone else on a Sony Playstation! In betwe