[sage-devel] Re: ECL / Maxima / Fedora 14 issues.

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Witt
On Oct 29, 6:48 pm, Mike Witt wrote: > > Is there any chance of you making any of these machine which do *not*   > > run Fedora 13 available to the build bot? There are 5 machines which   > > the buildbot uses which runs Fedora 13, but nothing for Fedora 11, 12   > > or 14. > > Well, the one that

Re: [sage-devel] Re: parsing trac

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Hansen
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Jason Grout wrote: > It seems that Mike Hansen had some pretty cool ideas about how to use that > plugin. There's some code at [1] which handles the digest authentication that xmlrpclib doesn't handle by default. With the result of "SageTracServerProxy", you can

[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: Request to review Sagemath Beginners Guide

2010-10-29 Thread Jason Grout
On 10/29/10 8:22 PM, William Stein wrote: Hi Sage-Devel, I'm curious if people are getting emails like this... (I don't have anything to do with this PacktPub project. Generally, I think it is best for people to write documentation for Sage that can be distributed with Sage, and is organized u

Re: [sage-devel] Regression testing

2010-10-29 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On 10/29/10 10:10 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Dr. David Kirkby > >>> 'cksum' is a 32-bit checksum. Actually, if used all three sections of the >>> output >>> >>> 1) Checksum >>> 2) Length >>> 3) Filen

[sage-devel] Re: Has the number of doctests fallen ?

2010-10-29 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
On Oct 24, 1:52 am, David Kirkby wrote: > It used to take about 1800 seconds to doctest Sage on my Sun Ultra 27 > which runs OpenSolaris. That has now dropped to about 1600 seconds in > the latest version (4.6.rc0). > > I've not upgraded the hardware, compiler or other software, so I can't > under

[sage-devel] Python 2.7 vs 3.2

2010-10-29 Thread Tim Daly
There was an interesting comment here about the question of Python 2.8 and the smooth upgrade path. Apparently the only Pythonic path is a 3.2 version. http://sayspy.blogspot.com/2010/10/viewing-python-32-as-successor-to.html -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.co

Re: [sage-devel] Fwd: Request to review Sagemath Beginners Guide

2010-10-29 Thread David Kirkby
On 30 October 2010 02:22, William Stein wrote: > Hi Sage-Devel, > I'm curious if people are getting emails like this... > (I don't have anything to do with this PacktPub project.  Generally, I think > it is best for people to write documentation for Sage that can be > distributed with Sage, and is

Re: [sage-devel] ECL / Maxima / Fedora 14 issues.

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Witt
Is there any chance of you making any of these machine which do *not* run Fedora 13 available to the build bot? There are 5 machines which the buildbot uses which runs Fedora 13, but nothing for Fedora 11, 12 or 14. Well, the one that runs Fedora 13 is the one that has the worst problems

Re: [sage-devel] Fwd: Request to review Sagemath Beginners Guide

2010-10-29 Thread Timothy Clemans
Who the heck is this guy? There's no mention of Sage on his blog http://www.shocksolution.com/about/ On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 6:22 PM, William Stein wrote: > Hi Sage-Devel, > I'm curious if people are getting emails like this... > (I don't have anything to do with this PacktPub project.  Generally

[sage-devel] Fwd: Request to review Sagemath Beginners Guide

2010-10-29 Thread William Stein
Hi Sage-Devel, I'm curious if people are getting emails like this... (I don't have anything to do with this PacktPub project. Generally, I think it is best for people to write documentation for Sage that can be distributed with Sage, and is organized using Sphinx, etc.) Forwarded conversation S

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Spoof: Sage Misuses

2010-10-29 Thread David Kirkby
On 29 October 2010 16:48, rjf wrote: > 3.  The demand specifically for Mathematica programmers may reflect > the fact that good recruiters are trying to find >  smart people who can pass their entrance exam, > and assume that any competent person can learn to limp along in > Mathematica fast, and

Re: [sage-devel] ECL / Maxima / Fedora 14 issues.

2010-10-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10/29/10 07:20 PM, Mike Witt wrote: Is there any chance that Fedora 14 won't be supported? It can't be fully supported until we have the hardware/software set up to test it. I have one FC11 machine, one FC12, and one FC13. FC12 has had no problem with recent Sage builds. FC11 has had mino

Re: [sage-devel] Re: ECL - test suite and spkg-check file

2010-10-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10/30/10 12:57 AM, Volker Braun wrote: I'm definitely in favor of adding ecl's test suite. Assuming that ecl actually passes its self-tests ;) Volker Well, even if it does not, this will not stop Sage building, as the test suite would only be run when SAGE_CHECK=yes. It's 1 AM here, so I

[sage-devel] Re: ECL - test suite and spkg-check file

2010-10-29 Thread Volker Braun
I'm definitely in favor of adding ecl's test suite. Assuming that ecl actually passes its self-tests ;) Volker On Oct 30, 12:37 am, "Dr. David Kirkby" wrote: > There's no spkg-check file for ECL, so we can't run ECL's self-tests. In order > to do this, we would need to add the tests, which are

[sage-devel] ECL - test suite and spkg-check file

2010-10-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
There's no spkg-check file for ECL, so we can't run ECL's self-tests. In order to do this, we would need to add the tests, which are in a sepparate file (1.7 MB). I'd propose that we add 1) Add the ECL test code 2) Add an spkg-check file so ECL's self-tests can run if SAGE_CHECK=yes. But of co

Re: [sage-devel] Regression testing

2010-10-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10/29/10 10:10 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Dr. David Kirkby 'cksum' is a 32-bit checksum. Actually, if used all three sections of the output 1) Checksum 2) Length 3) Filename I feel that should be sufficiently relieable. The probability of a test having th

[sage-devel] Re: parsing trac

2010-10-29 Thread Jason Grout
On 10/29/10 8:33 AM, Martin Albrecht wrote: Hi there, in light of the recent discussion on that our Trac based system shows its age compared to more awesome technologies I figured I might try to automate a few more steps of my own Trac interaction. For me almost the most annoying thing is to 1)

[sage-devel] Output format for find_fit and solve

2010-10-29 Thread Oscar Gerardo Lazo Arjona
I want to propose the following changes to the output format of find_fit and solve: for find_fit the current output format is a list of equations: sage: data = [(i, 1.2 * sin(0.5*i-0.2) + 0.1 * normalvariate(0, 1)) for i in xsrange(0, 4*pi, 0.2)] sage: var('a, b, c, x') sage: model(x) = a * s

Re: [sage-devel] Regression testing

2010-10-29 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On 10/25/10 07:06 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:19 AM, David Kirkby >>  wrote: >>> >>> On 21 October 2010 01:33, David Roe  wrote: There are a number of tickets in trac about performance regressions

Re: [sage-devel] ECL / Maxima / Fedora 14 issues.

2010-10-29 Thread Mike Witt
Is there any chance that Fedora 14 won't be supported? I have one FC11 machine, one FC12, and one FC13. FC12 has had no problem with recent Sage builds. FC11 has had minor problems. Even though sage is supported on Fedora 13, *my* fc13 machine (admittedly a rather underpowered one) promptly cease

Re: [sage-devel] parsing trac

2010-10-29 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:25 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: > On 2010-10-29 15:33, Martin Albrecht wrote: >> Is there a better way of doing this (getting information about >> a patch), e.g. is there a way to make Trac spit out some machine readable >> format which is more easily parsed? > > I did this,

[sage-devel] Re: Spoof: Sage Misuses

2010-10-29 Thread rjf
regarding jobs, programming, etc, Kirby does not reveal all that I conveyed to him. 1. Monster.com has fewer jobs than indeed.com Indeed.com now has 223 jobs listed, estimated salaries... * $40,000+ (201) * $60,000+ (152) * $80,000+ (94) * $100,000+ (39) * $120,000+ (13) Py

Re: [sage-devel] parsing trac

2010-10-29 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2010-10-29 15:33, Martin Albrecht wrote: > Is there a better way of doing this (getting information about > a patch), e.g. is there a way to make Trac spit out some machine readable > format which is more easily parsed? I did this, see http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/jdemeyer/merger/pars

Re: [sage-devel] parsing trac

2010-10-29 Thread John Cremona
Are you in danger on reinventing the wheel? John On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Martin Albrecht wrote: > Hi there, > > in light of the recent discussion on that our Trac based system shows its age > compared to more awesome technologies I figured I might try to automate a few > more steps of m

[sage-devel] Re: ECL / Maxima / Fedora 14 issues.

2010-10-29 Thread Volker Braun
I have made a new ticket at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10187 to update ecl and maxima simultaneously, as they depend on each other. Updated spgks are there. Doctests for the now-smarter maxima still need to be sorted out. Fedora 14 also disallows executable stack libraries by defaul

[sage-devel] parsing trac

2010-10-29 Thread Martin Albrecht
Hi there, in light of the recent discussion on that our Trac based system shows its age compared to more awesome technologies I figured I might try to automate a few more steps of my own Trac interaction. For me almost the most annoying thing is to 1) export the patch 2) upload the patch (make

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Spoof: Sage Misuses

2010-10-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10/29/10 01:50 PM, kcrisman wrote: I'm of the opinion that outside academia, there is not a lot of call for Mathematica. I think that in physics Mma is used fairly heavily, at least in certain circles. I don't know how much of that is outside academia, presumably a fair amount. - kcrism

[sage-devel] Re: Spoof: Sage Misuses

2010-10-29 Thread kcrisman
> I'm of the opinion that outside academia, there is not a lot of call for > Mathematica. > I think that in physics Mma is used fairly heavily, at least in certain circles. I don't know how much of that is outside academia, presumably a fair amount. - kcrisman -- To post to this group, send a

[sage-devel] Re: Adding a new type

2010-10-29 Thread Simon King
Hi Victor! On 28 Okt., 18:05, VictorMiller wrote: > 3) Noncommutative polynomials and power series: if X is a finite set, > and M is the free monoid on X (which is already in sage): Few weeks ago I wrapped the functionality provided by GAP into Sage. Advantages: 1) GAP also provides non-associat

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Review wranglers

2010-10-29 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi Jason, hi Mike, On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 03:26:09PM -0400, Jason Bandlow wrote: > On 10/22/2010 12:20 PM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > > Given the difficulty of finding reviewers, are you arguing we > > shouldn't try to make things even easier? Yes, it's not to bad ([copy > > the url, qimpor

Re: [sage-devel] 70M .cache/common-lisp

2010-10-29 Thread John Cremona
I have been hit by this too. For the same reason: my work desktop has a networked (and backed up) home dir with limited space, but the local disk has lots of space -- so I make ~/.cache a link to a dir on the local disk and stopped getting warnings about my disk quota being exceeded. I'm sure yo

[sage-devel] 70M .cache/common-lisp

2010-10-29 Thread Jan Groenewald
Hi We had students learn to build and modify sage on the large local "scratch space" on each PC, not on their networked NFS home directories, which has more limited space. Each student had a ~/.cache/common-lisp which was 70M in size. Perhaps maxima compilation did this? Perhaps it can be deleted

Re: [sage-devel] Spoof: Sage Misuses

2010-10-29 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 10/29/10 05:54 AM, Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi David, On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: If you want to put students off of using Mathematica, I can suggest a very simple way. Suggest they look on job sites like phdjobs, monstir.com, and search for the number of jobs requir