Re: [sage-devel] Cleaning up extcode

2011-01-01 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:16 PM, William Stein wrote: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Robert Bradshaw > wrote: >> I've been looking at merging extcode into the main repository, and was >> thinking some cleanup is in order. See >> http://wiki.sagemath.org/extcode for a current listing of conte

[sage-devel] Deprecation policy

2011-01-01 Thread Simon King
Hi, and happy new year! I wonder under what conditions there should be a deprecation warning before removing a method: Can one do without a deprecation warning, if the method does not really provide an apparent functionality? Or would we argue: It is theoretically possible that some third-party co

[sage-devel] Re: Deprecation policy

2011-01-01 Thread kcrisman
Happy New Year as well! Certainly sometimes we do simply remove methods which are used absolutely nowhere in the code and are clearly for internal use only. The way you describe this certainly make them seem like a candidate for this. However, in general, we definitely are pretty careful with thi

[sage-devel] Fwd: [WR #2158917] Could you please clarify terms of use for WolframAlpha

2011-01-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
You may recall some discussions some time ago about using WolframAlpha to make comparisons with Sage results. Alex Ghitza in particular thought we might be breaking the terms of the usage. I asked Wolfram Research, and here's their reply. (What I asked is written below their reply). O

Re: [sage-devel] Re: When is a test not a valid test?

2011-01-01 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 12/ 8/10 06:28 PM, rjf wrote: On Dec 6, 8:01 am, David Kirkby wrote: I'm still waiting to hear from Wolfram Research on the use of Wolfram Alpha for this. Why would they bother to reply? Because it would be courteous to do so. They did reply - see my post. Basically making use of W

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Scalable Sage Server Architecture Proposal v0.1

2011-01-01 Thread Alex Leone
> > Alex -- can you also post your document to the wiki (or a link to it)? > http://wiki.sagemath.org/Notebook%20scalability > Done. It's in the Notes section. > 1. I wouldn't do a "isAdmin" property for users. Rather, create one or > > more groups that are marked as isAdmin and then add the

[sage-devel] Re: Mutability of echelon form result

2011-01-01 Thread Rob Beezer
A fix is available at http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10543 -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/g

[sage-devel] Re: LLL independent set for kernel of integer matrix

2011-01-01 Thread Rob Beezer
I've added this into Trac as: http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10544 -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google

Re: [sage-devel] Fwd: [WR #2158917] Could you please clarify terms of use for WolframAlpha

2011-01-01 Thread Timothy Clemans
Wow that's nice of them. I'm amazed they replied let alone grant you permission. On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > You may recall some discussions some time ago about using WolframAlpha to > make comparisons with Sage results. Alex Ghitza in particular thought we > might b

Re: [sage-devel] Fwd: [WR #2158917] Could you please clarify terms of use for WolframAlpha

2011-01-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:25 PM, Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > You may recall some discussions some time ago about using WolframAlpha to > make comparisons with Sage results. Alex Ghitza in particular thought we > might be breaking the terms of the usage. I asked Wolfram Research, and > here's their re

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Mutability of echelon form result

2011-01-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Rob Beezer wrote: > A fix is available at   http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/10543 Good, because this is a major bug! See below for how it could wreak havoc: sage: A = matrix(QQ,2,range(4)) sage: C = A.echelon_form() sage: C[0,0] = 20 sage: A.echelon_for

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Scalable Sage Server Architecture Proposal v0.1

2011-01-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Alex Leone wrote: >> Alex -- can you also post your document to the wiki (or a link to it)? >> http://wiki.sagemath.org/Notebook%20scalability > >  Done.  It's in the Notes section. > > >> > 1. I wouldn't do a "isAdmin" property for users. Rather, create one or >> >

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Deprecation policy

2011-01-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 6:09 PM, kcrisman wrote: > Happy New Year as well! > > Certainly sometimes we do simply remove methods which are used > absolutely nowhere in the code and are clearly for internal use only. > The way you describe this certainly make them seem like a candidate > for this. I

[sage-devel] Re: [sage-notebook] Scalable Sage Server Architecture Proposal v0.1

2011-01-01 Thread Alex Leone
> > In some cases it might make sense to be able to specify coordinates or > other rich data: > > {image:"foo.png", position:[3,7]} > > This argues for making the output document have a type like you > suggested above, e.g., > > {t:'image', data:'foo.png', position:[3,7]} t for 'type'. Otherwi

Re: [sage-devel] Cleaning up extcode

2011-01-01 Thread William Stein
On Sat, Jan 1, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Robert Bradshaw wrote: > On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 10:16 PM, William Stein wrote: >> On Fri, Dec 31, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Robert Bradshaw >> wrote: >>> I've been looking at merging extcode into the main repository, and was >>> thinking some cleanup is in order. See >>>

[sage-devel] Re: Mutability of echelon form result

2011-01-01 Thread Rob Beezer
On Jan 1, 10:36 pm, William Stein wrote: > See below for how it could wreak havoc: Yes, since the echelon form gets cached. There could be others (over other rings), I just haven't checked. But doing a quick survey is on my list for Bug Days coming up. Rob -- To post to this group, send an e