[sage-devel] Re: RFC: a good name the category of algebras that are not necessarily associative nor unital

2013-07-04 Thread Volker Braun
+1 for switching Algebras to CommutativeUnitalAlgebras (or so) and the using Algebras for the most general algebra. In fact, I don't understand why Algebras has to be in the global namespace. I've never once found it useful to start an interactive session by instantiating a new category. The do

Re: [sage-devel] Re: RFC: a good name the category of algebras that are not necessarily associative nor unital

2013-07-04 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Wed, Jul 03, 2013 at 08:43:06PM +, Simon King wrote: > What I'd prefer is very simple: Just say "algebra" to an algebra. If > any additional axiom holds, then the algebra should be called > commutative, associative, unital, noetherian, lie, finite-dimensional, > or whatever you like. Bu

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 5.11.beta3 and debian package: ptestlong results

2013-07-04 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 04/07/2013 19:07, Andrey Novoseltsev a écrit : On Thursday, 4 July 2013 10:44:40 UTC-6, Snark wrote: Le 04/07/2013 17:04, Andrey Novoseltsev a ďż˝crit : > Regarding PALP breaking or not - it has different speed and capabilities > depending on compile-time limits. Sage packag

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 5.11.beta3 and debian package: ptestlong results

2013-07-04 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
On Thursday, 4 July 2013 10:44:40 UTC-6, Snark wrote: > > Le 04/07/2013 17:04, Andrey Novoseltsev a �crit : > > Regarding PALP breaking or not - it has different speed and capabilities > > depending on compile-time limits. Sage package actually compiles several > > versions of it and adds maxi

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Sage 5.11.beta3 and debian package: ptestlong results

2013-07-04 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 04/07/2013 17:04, Andrey Novoseltsev a écrit : Regarding PALP breaking or not - it has different speed and capabilities depending on compile-time limits. Sage package actually compiles several versions of it and adds maximum dimension to executable file names. It is probably quite incompatible

Re: [sage-devel] Re: _cleanup method in DifferentialForms class

2013-07-04 Thread Burcin Erocal
On Thu, 4 Jul 2013 04:49:16 -0700 (PDT) vdelecroix <20100.delecr...@gmail.com> wrote: > If the differential forms are somewhat immutable we may also save the > result of is_zero once for all. Why do not make is_zero a > cached_method of symbolic expressions ? Do you mean wrapping sage.symbolic.e

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 5.11.beta3 and debian package: ptestlong results

2013-07-04 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
Regarding PALP breaking or not - it has different speed and capabilities depending on compile-time limits. Sage package actually compiles several versions of it and adds maximum dimension to executable file names. It is probably quite incompatible with what any distribution does. Andrey -- Yo

[sage-devel] Re: All patchbots down again?

2013-07-04 Thread Volker Braun
Occasionally the patchbot client dies when it can't reach the server. It would be better if it would retry indefinitely until the server is up again. Relevant log follows: REPORT {'base': '5.11.beta3', 'deps': [13422], 'machine': ['Fedora', '18', 'x86_64', '3.9.5-201.fc18.x86_64', 'desktop'],

[sage-devel] Inheritance from Parent and QuotientRing_nc leads to a TypeError

2013-07-04 Thread Thomas Feulner
I am trying to build a class which derives from Parent and QuotientRing_nc at the same time. Here is a minimal example: sage: from sage.structure.parent import Parent sage: from sage.categories.all import Category, FiniteEnumeratedSets, CommutativeRings sage: from sage.rings.quotient_ring import

Re: [sage-devel] Re: _cleanup method in DifferentialForms class

2013-07-04 Thread vdelecroix
If the differential forms are somewhat immutable we may also save the result of is_zero once for all. Why do not make is_zero a cached_method of symbolic expressions ? Best, Vincent -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe

[sage-devel] All patchbots down again?

2013-07-04 Thread Simon King
Hi! This is again about #13589. Nicolas added another patch, that looks good to me, but given the problems we had with avoiding a startup-time regression, I'd like to wait for the results of the plugins before giving it a positive review. The patch is up since 27 hours, but no patchbot showed a r