I'm in favor of moving such toys to an educational-library.
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In general, I think it is FAR more useful to spend our time on making the
documentation for any educational/toy functions very clear than to
creating some huge change of a new directory that no one will know about,
deprecation, broken links, ... Unless people feel that Sage is *only* a
Assuming fp values cannot be equal, would it make more sense
to test elementship in CC by implementing ComplexField.__contains__()
instead of trusting Python or Maxima == ?
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I don't like the educational name, since it can be misleading. Some could
think that they are functions that are useful for teaching (in this case,
for teaching basic concepts about prime numbers), whereas what we would be
meaning is that its educational value would be in looking at the code
I really do not see the point of an educational-library if the code
will not appear in the documentation. It is precisely the code which
is interesting!
Vincent
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I changed the code to return an exception if the truth value is unknown
and ran `sage -testall`.
Did you upload the patch to somewhere? Where this change has to be made?
I might be willing to fix these tests when I have time.
It seems that nothing happens for more than a year,
so maybe
Should there be code in Sage which is extremely slow and for educational
purposes only?
I believe such code is valuable.
I believe so as well. As Michael said, at the very least it's useful as a
testing tool. (Also we have done something similar by having an algorithm
keyword for
All right: trac is globally incredibly slow... there is definitely
something wrong...
Vincent
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I would say such a function belongs in the documentation only, and we
should have an easy way of testing (and perhaps importing) code
defined there.
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 12:19 PM, Travis Scrimshaw tsc...@ucdavis.edu wrote:
Should there be code in Sage which is extremely slow and for
On 26/02/2015, at 20:57, Julien Puydt julien.pu...@laposte.net wrote:
Le 26/02/2015 08:20, Francois Bissey a écrit :
On 26/02/2015, at 20:12, Julien Puydt julien.pu...@laposte.net wrote:
Le 25/02/2015 22:43, François Bissey a écrit :
That's fun, on Gentoo my ecl from the system just
Hello,
There is something wrong
sage: bool(RR(pi) == pi)
True
sage: bool(RR(golden_ratio) == golden_ratio)
True
which is fine to me. You coerce to the field with less precision. But
sage: bool(RR(sqrt(2)) == sqrt(2))
False
sage: sqrt(2).n() == RR(sqrt(2))
True
sage: RR(sqrt(2)) == CC(sqrt(2))
On 26/02/2015, at 21:47, Julien Puydt julien.pu...@laposte.net wrote:
Le 26/02/2015 09:05, Francois Bissey a écrit :
Ok what version of gmp? 5.1.3 here.
I have 6.0.0.
OK upgraded to 6.0.0a (the one I have available in the tree):
(setq b (expt a 600))
Condition of type:
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Pedro Cruz wrote:
+1 for the package educational-algorithms but called
educational-packages or educational-library.
Yes, '-packages' or '-library' is better name.
Hmmm... actually there could be, in principle, three kind of algorithms:
1) Fast ones, that we normally
We also have
sage: RR(tan(pi/20)) == CC(tan(pi/20))
False
But it seems right for cos, sin, exp, atan, cosh, sinh. Is there a way
to test all symbolic functions?
2015-02-26 10:02 UTC+01:00, Ralf Stephan gtrw...@gmail.com:
On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 9:50:40 AM UTC+1, vdelecroix wrote:
Le 26/02/2015 10:08, Francois Bissey a écrit :
So I think we can say there is something going with gmp 6.0.0.
I think that should narrow things down considerably.
I'll report our findings to upstream -- that should definitely interest
them, and help pinpoint the issue.
Thanks!
Snark on
On 2015-02-25, Jean-Pierre Flori jpfl...@gmail.com wrote:
Not really related but it seems ECL saw an update!
they've just restarting - someone finally volunteered to become the
maintainer of ECL...
Hopefully it will presist, and we will see a new version soon.
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Le 26/02/2015 10:15, Julien Puydt a écrit :
Le 26/02/2015 10:08, Francois Bissey a écrit :
So I think we can say there is something going with gmp 6.0.0.
I think that should narrow things down considerably.
I'll report our findings to upstream -- that should definitely interest
them, and help
Still have some trouble with #17852. As soon as the Submit changes is
more than just switching the ticket status. It hangs a lot!
2015-02-25 19:31 UTC+01:00, Vincent Delecroix 20100.delecr...@gmail.com:
2015-02-25 19:24 UTC+01:00, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com:
Is the number correct? It
Le 26/02/2015 09:05, Francois Bissey a écrit :
Ok what version of gmp? 5.1.3 here.
I have 6.0.0.
Snark
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Hi,
with current Sage,
sage: bool(sqrt(2)==CC(sqrt(2)))
False
You would expect that this leads to
sage: sqrt(2) in CC
False
but due to a bug I'm fixing atm in #12967 this returns True.
However, now that it's fixed I'm faced with the question if
answer to both really should be False. If one
On Thursday, February 26, 2015 at 9:50:40 AM UTC+1, vdelecroix wrote:
sage: bool(RR(sqrt(2)) == sqrt(2))
False
sage: sqrt(2).n() == RR(sqrt(2))
True
These two come from bool(sqrt(2)==sqrt(2).n()) being False I think
(because Maxima is involved here) but this is different than
sage:
+1 for the package educational-algorithms but called
educational-packages or educational-library.
MathSciNet catalog has the category Mathematics education
http://www.ams.org/mathscinet/msc/msc2010.html?t=97-XX
being the last topic after all the mathematical edge cutting works.
This
Le mercredi 25 février 2015 20:56:06 UTC+1, kcrisman a écrit :
Who on earth thinks that the Sieve of Eratosthenes is designed for modern
production work???
Me. I´m using it for the ithprime function in Giac. ithprime(70)
returns 10570841 in 0.07 second while in sage
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