Re: [sage-devel] Sage bdist changes (OSX El Capitan) Jupiter Notebook doesn't work

2015-11-26 Thread Volker Braun
Xcode comes with a working git, at least. So that would be a somewhat pointless exercise. On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 9:00:53 PM UTC+1, François wrote: > > It would be interesting to see if we can build git properly with ssl with > this > as well. > > François > > > On 27/11/2015, at 0

Re: [sage-devel] Sage bdist changes (OSX El Capitan) Jupiter Notebook doesn't work

2015-11-26 Thread Francois Bissey
It would be interesting to see if we can build git properly with ssl with this as well. François > On 27/11/2015, at 03:22, Volker Braun wrote: > > It does work! > > http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/19626 (needs review) > > > On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 1:01:00 PM UTC+1, Volker Braun wr

Re: [sage-devel] Sage bdist changes (OSX El Capitan)

2015-11-26 Thread Francois Bissey
I may have a go this week end, I cannot do it sooner. François > On 27/11/2015, at 03:45, Volker Braun wrote: > > Can somebody review http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/19467 ? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscr

[sage-devel] Have not got my trac account

2015-11-26 Thread Ninad Bhat
Hi, I had emailed my details to sage-trac-account @googlegroups.com on Sunday, Nov 22.But, I still haven't got a trac account.Does it usually take this much time? Thanks in advance. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscr

[sage-devel] Re: Mathematics without apologies - Portrait of a Problematical Vocation

2015-11-26 Thread rjf
I am sure that Dima is not aware of the sarcasm intended in my original posting. I assume it is a language problem. To explain: 1. I was quoting from a review, which quoted from a book. The sentiment was from Mr. Harris. Mr. Harris has written a whole book on mathematics. 2. I am not upset

Re: [sage-devel] Sage bdist changes (OSX El Capitan) Jupiter Notebook doesn't work

2015-11-26 Thread Volker Braun
You can almost hear the maniac laughter coming from Cupertino for making it more difficult to use GPL software on OSX... On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 3:59:28 PM UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > the official Apple position is that one has to ship their own openssl: > http://lists.apple.com/ar

Re: [sage-devel] Sage bdist changes (OSX El Capitan) Jupiter Notebook doesn't work

2015-11-26 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thursday, 26 November 2015 12:01:00 UTC, Volker Braun wrote: > > Nice find, we should give it a try as a workaround until the openssl > license issue improves (hopefully sooner than later) > the official Apple position is that one has to ship their own openssl: http://lists.apple.com/archive

[sage-devel] Re: Sage bdist changes (OSX El Capitan)

2015-11-26 Thread Volker Braun
Can somebody review http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/19467 ? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to thi

[sage-devel] Re: install_package('whatever')

2015-11-26 Thread Volker Braun
The question was about the default notebook; We aren't going to remove SageNB any time soon but for most users its not a good match. Also, jupyter also has multiuser stuff (though not packaged in Sage), and a better implementation thereof thats not totally oblivious to security. On Wednesday,

Re: [sage-devel] Sage bdist changes (OSX El Capitan) Jupiter Notebook doesn't work

2015-11-26 Thread Volker Braun
It does work! http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/19626 (needs review) On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 1:01:00 PM UTC+1, Volker Braun wrote: > > Nice find, we should give it a try as a workaround until the openssl > license issue improves (hopefully sooner than later) > > > On Thursday, November

Re: [sage-devel] poseidon patchbot and cbc

2015-11-26 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2015-11-26 13:42, Vincent Delecroix wrote: Harder: could you fix all of them with another ticket? Now I fixed #19622, so I just need the broken patchbots to test #19622 again. Is there a way to force a particular patchbot to test a particular ticket? -- You received this message because

Re: [sage-devel] poseidon patchbot and cbc

2015-11-26 Thread Vincent Delecroix
On 26/11/15 09:34, Jeroen Demeyer wrote: On 2015-11-26 12:41, Nathann Cohen wrote: Could the owner stop the patchbot and try to investigate if there is something wrong? Any lights from people with graphs/cbc knowledge would be useful as well. At first sight I have no idea of what's going wrong

Re: [sage-devel] poseidon patchbot and cbc

2015-11-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Cool, I just broke all patchbots :-) And right before Christmas. What a coincidence. Nathann -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubsc

Re: [sage-devel] poseidon patchbot and cbc

2015-11-26 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2015-11-26 12:41, Nathann Cohen wrote: Could the owner stop the patchbot and try to investigate if there is something wrong? Any lights from people with graphs/cbc knowledge would be useful as well. At first sight I have no idea of what's going wrong, though Jeroen has been patching the code

Re: [sage-devel] Sage bdist changes (OSX El Capitan) Jupiter Notebook doesn't work

2015-11-26 Thread Volker Braun
Nice find, we should give it a try as a workaround until the openssl license issue improves (hopefully sooner than later) On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 11:44:20 AM UTC+1, Christian Nassau wrote: > > On 26.11.2015 10:31, Volker Braun wrote: > > Yes, thats because Apple decided (in their infi

Re: [sage-devel] poseidon patchbot and cbc

2015-11-26 Thread Nathann Cohen
> Could the owner stop the patchbot and try to investigate if there is > something wrong? Any lights from people with graphs/cbc knowledge would be > useful as well. At first sight I have no idea of what's going wrong, though Jeroen has been patching the code that selects the default MIP solver in

[sage-devel] poseidon patchbot and cbc

2015-11-26 Thread Vincent Delecroix
Hello, Poseidon is reporting strange doctest failures, for example at http://patchbot.sagemath.org/log/19619/Ubuntu/14.04/x86_64/3.13.0-66-generic/poseidon/2015-11-26%2011:23:09?short Here is the error File "src/sage/graphs/generic_graph.py", line 5585, in sage.graphs.generic_graph.GenericGra

Re: [sage-devel] Sage bdist changes (OSX El Capitan) Jupiter Notebook doesn't work

2015-11-26 Thread Jean-Pierre Flori
On Thursday, November 26, 2015 at 11:44:20 AM UTC+1, Christian Nassau wrote: > > On 26.11.2015 10:31, Volker Braun wrote: > > Yes, thats because Apple decided (in their infinite wisdom) to not > > include openssl headers in El Capitan, so we can't link against OSX's > > openssl library even th

Re: [sage-devel] Sage bdist changes (OSX El Capitan) Jupiter Notebook doesn't work

2015-11-26 Thread Christian Nassau
On 26.11.2015 10:31, Volker Braun wrote: Yes, thats because Apple decided (in their infinite wisdom) to not include openssl headers in El Capitan, so we can't link against OSX's openssl library even though it is present on the system. It seems Xcode comes equipped with its own version of the h

Re: [sage-devel] Re: Do we really need Element, RingElement, AdditiveGroupElement, ...?

2015-11-26 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2015-11-26 11:08, Simon King wrote: Hi Travis, On 2015-11-23, Travis Scrimshaw wrote: However, I'm +1 for flatting things down to Element as it would probably solve #15160 and #15947 . See #18756 or #18758. I t

[sage-devel] Re: Do we really need Element, RingElement, AdditiveGroupElement, ...?

2015-11-26 Thread Simon King
Hi David, On 2015-11-23, David Roe wrote: > The reason is that most of what would go in the intermediate classes > (RingElement, ModuleElement, etc) should go on the categories instead. Indeed that's the purpose of the tickets that I mentioned. There is some difference in performance, though. So

[sage-devel] Re: Do we really need Element, RingElement, AdditiveGroupElement, ...?

2015-11-26 Thread Simon King
Hi Travis, On 2015-11-23, Travis Scrimshaw wrote: > However, I'm +1 for flatting things down to Element as it would probably > solve #15160 and #15947 >. See #18756 or #18758. I think these would solve it eventually

[sage-devel] Re: Do we really need Element, RingElement, AdditiveGroupElement, ...?

2015-11-26 Thread Simon King
Hi Eric, On 2015-11-23, Eric Gourgoulhon wrote: > Le lundi 23 novembre 2015 10:55:40 UTC+1, Jeroen Demeyer a =C3=A9crit : >> >> Of course, you could argue that Element=20 >> should not have __add__ and __mul__ (since not all elements can be added= >=20 >> or multiplied). But it doesn't really hu

Re: [sage-devel] Sage bdist changes (OSX El Capitan) Jupiter Notebook doesn't work

2015-11-26 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Thursday, 26 November 2015 09:31:20 UTC, Volker Braun wrote: > > Yes, thats because Apple decided (in their infinite wisdom) to not include > openssl headers in El Capitan, so we can't link against OSX's openssl > library even though it is present on the system. > > For the jupyter notebook

Re: [sage-devel] Sage bdist changes (OSX El Capitan) Jupiter Notebook doesn't work

2015-11-26 Thread Volker Braun
Yes, thats because Apple decided (in their infinite wisdom) to not include openssl headers in El Capitan, so we can't link against OSX's openssl library even though it is present on the system. For the jupyter notebook you need to compile first our own packaged openssl, then recompile python to