Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 2:17:25 PM UTC-7, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > There are some duplicates in there (I've wasted enough time on it), but > it matches things that a regex never will. That function is implemented > by the following code, which belongs in a third-party library and not >

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 5/8/20 4:12 PM, Nils Bruin wrote: > On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 9:20:00 AM UTC-7, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > I feel the same way about functions like search_src() that badly > reimplement grep (even if they still work). > > > I'm definitely in favour of keeping search_src and

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread Nils Bruin
On Thursday, April 30, 2020 at 9:20:00 AM UTC-7, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > I feel the same way about functions like search_src() that badly > reimplement grep (even if they still work). > I'm definitely in favour of keeping search_src and search_def. I find it *super* convenient to not have

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 5/8/20 12:59 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > As a topologist, I would have to say that the best results are the ones > for simplicial complexes and simplicial sets, actually. > Good news: those are also in my top five results. Bad news (?): Google probably knows enough about you to put them in

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 9:51:34 AM UTC-7, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 5/8/20 12:11 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > > > They accomplish different things: one searches the global name space and > > the other searches the source code. > > > > Example: can Sage compute any fundamental

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 5/8/20 12:11 PM, John H Palmieri wrote: > > They accomplish different things: one searches the global name space and > the other searches the source code. > > Example: can Sage compute any fundamental groups? > Neither approach returns the best result. Putting site:doc.sagemath.org

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 3:08:21 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:37 AM Markus Wageringel > > wrote: > > > > Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 09:03:08 UTC+2 schrieb Sebastian Oehms: > >> > >> But if we talk about users who are not interested in code and strings, >

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread Sebastian Oehms
On Friday, May 8, 2020 at 11:37:03 AM UTC+2, Markus Wageringel wrote: > > Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 09:03:08 UTC+2 schrieb Sebastian Oehms: >> >> But if we talk about users who are not interested in code and strings, >> wouldn't it be more useful for them to have a function that searches >>

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 10:37 AM Markus Wageringel wrote: > > Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 09:03:08 UTC+2 schrieb Sebastian Oehms: >> >> But if we talk about users who are not interested in code and strings, >> wouldn't it be more useful for them to have a function that searches through >> the global

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread Markus Wageringel
Am Freitag, 8. Mai 2020 09:03:08 UTC+2 schrieb Sebastian Oehms: > > But if we talk about users who are not interested in code and strings, > wouldn't it be more useful for them to have a function that searches > through the global name space? Do we have such a one? > We do indeed. It is an

Re: [sage-devel] remove log_html() and other log_*()

2020-05-08 Thread Sebastian Oehms
On Thursday, May 7, 2020 at 2:45:51 PM UTC+2, kcrisman wrote: > ... and again many users may not even know there is a directory structure > at all. This is not a "highly peculiar set of disabilities" - rather, the > skill set of people on sage-devel is a "highly peculiar set of abilities",