Backward compatibility is not that convincing. If the items should not be
imported (that is, if it was a mistake in some sense to import them), then
we should fix that. Is there a good way to deprecate imports? (That is,
print a warning the first time someone uses sys, for example?)
Re
+1 to Nils remarks.
Please also consider backward compatibility. If you remove a bunch of
things, I'm probably just going to have to add them back on cocalc to avoid
all the headaches of people's code breaking. There might be a ton of random
code out there that will break if you remove a
Related quality-of-life ticket, for completeness:
- "make distclean" should not run "./configure"
https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/29310
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2020-09-08 20:52:39 UTC, Michael Orlitzky:
>
> We could pretty easily add a -q (quiet) flag to ./bootstrap if it would
> improve your quality of life. Mostly it involves not running `echo` in a
> few places, and passing "-s" to "$(MAKE) bootstrap-clean". The only
> thing remotely tricky would
On 2020-09-08 14:34, Samuel Lelievre wrote:
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> No quiet or silent mode; `-s` is for "save", not "silent".
>
> Conclusion: sorry for all the noise about the quiet.
>
> Bootstrap does not make that much noise anyway.
>
We could pretty easily add a -q (quiet) flag to ./bootstrap if it would
Thanks. The relevant portions of the `bootstrap` script are:
```
usage () {
echo >&2 "Usage: $0 [-d|-D|-s] [-u ] [-h]"
}
```
```
# Parse options
SAVE=no
DOWNLOAD=no
ALWAYSDOWNLOAD=no
CONFTARBALL_URL=""
while getopts "Ddshu:" OPTION
do
case "$OPTION" in
D) ALWAYSDOWNLOAD=yes;
Thank you, it seems to have found it now! (I did make clean, bootstrap,
this told me to install gettext, then I ran configure, which told me again
to install some more things, but already picked up the right python)
Matthias Koeppe schrieb am Dienstag, 8. September 2020 um 19:36:29 UTC+2:
>
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 7:04 PM Samuel Lelievre
wrote:
>
> Does `bootstrap` have a quiet mode?
>
> Trying `./bootstrap -q` failed, printing this line:
> ```
> Usage: ./bootstrap [-d|-D|-s] [-u ] [-h]
> ```
>
> How can I learn about what the various possible
> options (-d, -D, -s, -u , -h) do?
Does `bootstrap` have a quiet mode?
Trying `./bootstrap -q` failed, printing this line:
```
Usage: ./bootstrap [-d|-D|-s] [-u ] [-h]
```
How can I learn about what the various possible
options (-d, -D, -s, -u , -h) do?
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This is not the latest beta, or you forgot to run "./bootstrap".
On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 10:29:09 AM UTC-7, Martin R wrote:
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> The reason is interesting. What should I do now?
>
> ## Checking whether SageMath should install SPKG python3... ##
> ##
The reason is interesting. What should I do now?
## Checking whether SageMath should install SPKG python3... ##
## ##
configure:29618: checking whether any of sqlite libpng bzip2 xz libffi is
installed as or will be installed as SPKG
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 5:02 PM 'Martin R' via sage-devel
wrote:
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> My config.log says, after having done make clean and configure
> --enable-openssl
>
> ## ##
> ## Checking whether SageMath should install SPKG python3... ##
> ##
My config.log says, after having done make clean and configure
--enable-openssl
## ##
## Checking whether SageMath should install SPKG python3... ##
## ##
configure:29580: python3
On Tue, Sep 8, 2020 at 4:32 PM Nicolo' Piazzalunga
wrote:
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> Would it be possible to create a new trac ticket with more void spkg's?
sure - can you do this yourself?
> I attach a patch for pari subpackages (waiting to be merged in void).
> Leaving it open for a while will simplify adding spkg's
On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 4:00:33 PM UTC+1 axio...@yahoo.de wrote:
> I'd be very grateful for all detail, because I'm not all that good at
> performing rites.
>
oops, sorry, I thought you're on macOS :-)
As that's a typical macOS trouble.
>
> Actually, my system python says:
>
>
see also this page:
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/51130/ssl-error-using-sage-pip-install-to-download-a-package/
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Would it be possible to create a new trac ticket with more void spkg's?
I attach a patch for pari subpackages (waiting to be merged in void).
Leaving it open for a while will simplify adding spkg's and building.
Thanks.
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I'd be very grateful for all detail, because I'm not all that good at
performing rites.
Actually, my system python says:
martin@toolbox:~/sage-develop$ python
Python 3.8.2 (default, Jul 16 2020, 14:00:26)
[GCC 9.3.0] on linux
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more
install python 3.8 from python.org, perform the necessary rite to bless the
certs, and then let Sage use it rather than build its own Python.
On Tue, 8 Sep 2020, 15:05 'Martin R' via sage-devel, <
sage-devel@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> I did make clean, configure --enable-openssl, make and it
I did make clean, configure --enable-openssl, make and it still fails :-(
Martin R schrieb am Montag, 7. September 2020 um 21:23:20 UTC+2:
> yes (I did this) and no (it didn't work).
> John H Palmieri schrieb am Montag, 7. September 2020 um 20:54:37 UTC+2:
>
>> Did you do what Dima said, rebuild
On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:50:07 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote:
>
> There is a ticket (https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/25383) about removing
> some Sage functions from the global namespace, which I think is a good
> idea. But Sage also imports some Python modules:
>
> - os
> - sys
>
+1 to keep operator in the global name space. The doctests of the coercion
model assumes it.
On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 12:40:59 PM UTC+9 Andrey Novoseltsev
wrote:
> Perhaps it makes sense to keep "math related" imports given that we have a
> bunch of other "math functionality"
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