[sage-devel] Re: COIN-OR libraries in SAGE ?

2009-03-30 Thread dmitrey
On Mar 30, 6:46 pm, William Stein wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:43 AM, dmitrey wrote: > > > Hi there, > > I've been informed of the discussion, > > so my 2 cents: > > OpenOpt can work without CVXOPT installed (you can easily ensure it > > via running /examples/nlp_1.py, that uses ralg). T

[sage-devel] Re: COIN-OR libraries in SAGE ?

2009-03-30 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 8:43 AM, dmitrey wrote: > > Hi there, > I've been informed of the discussion, > so my 2 cents: > OpenOpt can work without CVXOPT installed (you can easily ensure it > via running /examples/nlp_1.py, that uses ralg). The mentioned files > (http://trac.openopt.org/openopt/br

[sage-devel] Re: COIN-OR libraries in SAGE ?

2009-03-30 Thread dmitrey
Hi there, I've been informed of the discussion, so my 2 cents: OpenOpt can work without CVXOPT installed (you can easily ensure it via running /examples/nlp_1.py, that uses ralg). The mentioned files (http://trac.openopt.org/openopt/browser/OOPy/openopt/solvers/CVXOPT/ *.py) are imported IF and ON

[sage-devel] Re: COIN-OR libraries in SAGE ?

2009-03-29 Thread Nathann Cohen
I just tried again the performances of GLPK against COIN-OR with a new option I had not noticed before, and the difference is now only of 2 : 1 It is a bit better than the 30 : 1 found with the previous example and perhaps it will let me code the algorithms I needed without waiting for COIN-OR to

[sage-devel] Re: COIN-OR libraries in SAGE ?

2009-03-29 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > > On Mar 29, 8:29 pm, William Stein wrote: >> Since cvxopt is GPLV3+ according to >> >>  http://abel.ee.ucla.edu/cvxopt/copyright.html >> >> OpenOpt can't legally be BSD licensed. > > Why not? From what I know, cvxopt has to be installed

[sage-devel] Re: COIN-OR libraries in SAGE ?

2009-03-29 Thread Harald Schilly
On Mar 29, 8:29 pm, William Stein wrote: > Since cvxopt is GPLV3+ according to > >  http://abel.ee.ucla.edu/cvxopt/copyright.html > > OpenOpt can't legally be BSD licensed. Why not? From what I know, cvxopt has to be installed separately, not a part of openopt. h --~--~-~--~~---

[sage-devel] Re: COIN-OR libraries in SAGE ?

2009-03-29 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:18 AM, mabshoff wrote: > > > > On Mar 29, 10:46 am, William Stein wrote: > > > >> So CBC can't ever be included in Sage unless CBC changed their license. >> >> The only way I see forward to have faster linear programming included >> *standard* in Sage: >> >> 1. Speed

[sage-devel] Re: COIN-OR libraries in SAGE ?

2009-03-29 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Harald Schilly wrote: > > On Mar 29, 7:46 pm, William Stein wrote: >> The only way I see forward to have faster linear programming included >> *standard* in Sage: >> > > Would it be possible to have "some code" that would connect Sage with > those solvers, but n

[sage-devel] Re: COIN-OR libraries in SAGE ?

2009-03-29 Thread mabshoff
On Mar 29, 10:46 am, William Stein wrote: > So CBC can't ever be included in Sage unless CBC changed their license. > > The only way I see forward to have faster linear programming included > *standard* in Sage: > > 1. Speed up GLPK. > 2. Get the license on CBC changed. > 3. Find another lin

[sage-devel] Re: COIN-OR libraries in SAGE ?

2009-03-29 Thread Harald Schilly
On Mar 29, 7:46 pm, William Stein wrote: > The only way I see forward to have faster linear programming included > *standard* in Sage: > Would it be possible to have "some code" that would connect Sage with those solvers, but not include them? i.e. calling a library and complaining, if it doesn'

[sage-devel] Re: COIN-OR libraries in SAGE ?

2009-03-29 Thread William Stein
On Sun, Mar 29, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Nathann Cohen wrote: > > Hello everybody !!! > > I wanted to expand SAGE graph theoretical's functions when I noticed > that the COIN-OR LP solvers were not even available > > I talked about it with a few of you on  SAGE-DEVEL Irc channel, and > ended up writi