+1 to remove all.
On Wednesday, September 2, 2020 at 1:50:07 PM UTC+9 John H Palmieri wrote:
> There is a ticket (https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/25383) about removing
> some Sage functions from the global namespace, which I think is a good
> idea. But Sage also imports some Python modules:
>
Perhaps it makes sense to keep "math related" imports given that we have a
bunch of other "math functionality" available without extra imports and
that's the point of Sage in general. While stuff for dealing with files and
warnings is special enough to require special commands.
On Wednesday, 2
+1 to keep operator in the global name space. The doctests of the coercion
model assumes it.
On Thursday, September 3, 2020 at 12:40:59 PM UTC+9 Andrey Novoseltsev
wrote:
> Perhaps it makes sense to keep "math related" imports given that we have a
> bunch of other "math functionality" availab
On Tuesday, September 1, 2020 at 9:50:07 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote:
>
> There is a ticket (https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/25383) about removing
> some Sage functions from the global namespace, which I think is a good
> idea. But Sage also imports some Python modules:
>
> - os
> - sys
> -
+1 to Nils remarks.
Please also consider backward compatibility. If you remove a bunch of
things, I'm probably just going to have to add them back on cocalc to avoid
all the headaches of people's code breaking. There might be a ton of random
code out there that will break if you remove a bun
Backward compatibility is not that convincing. If the items should not be
imported (that is, if it was a mistake in some sense to import them), then
we should fix that. Is there a good way to deprecate imports? (That is,
print a warning the first time someone uses sys, for example?)
Re Nils
On Tuesday, September 8, 2020 at 8:59:20 PM UTC-7, John H Palmieri wrote:
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>
> Re Nils' remarks: I think that we should have good reasons every time we
> deviate from standard Python. From that point of view, maybe (?) "math" or
> "operator" would be sensible things to import, although I don't r
