I will delete any messages to this thread in the next week. I encourage
people who have not yet engaged to think about the issue and see if they
have a compromise to suggest.
David
On Wed, May 31, 2023 at 5:24 PM G. M.-S. wrote:
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> Hi all.
>
> I would like to ask for a moratorium of at least
Hi all.
I would like to ask for a moratorium of at least 1 month on this
discussion, as it is leading nowhere. As a corollary, no changes on
anything related to it for the time being.
I would also like to ask if anybody could enforce this moratorium.
And in addition I would like to take the
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 12:59:54 PM UTC-7 G. M.-S. wrote:
Dima and Matthias,
I completely agree with Nils.
Could you (both of you) take a short vacation from SageMath, please?
More globally, I propose to stop this discussion completely for a few days.
+100
It's time for this
Anyway, we need you. Both of you.
+1
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Hi, you managed to make me laugh… Thanks.
Anyway, we need you. Both of you.
Best,
Guillermo
On Wed, 31 May 2023 at 02:17, Matthias Koeppe
wrote:
> Hi Guillermo,
>
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 12:59:54 PM UTC-7 G. M.-S. wrote:
>
> Could you (both of you) take a short vacation from
Hi Guillermo,
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 12:59:54 PM UTC-7 G. M.-S. wrote:
Could you (both of you) take a short vacation from SageMath, please?
Thanks, that's an interesting suggestion. But I think Dima would prefer to
go on vacation with his family, not with me. ;)
Matthias
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You
Dima and Matthias,
I completely agree with Nils.
Could you (both of you) take a short vacation from SageMath, please?
More globally, I propose to stop this discussion completely for a few days.
Thanks in advance.
Guillermo
On Tue, 30 May 2023 at 21:14, Nils Bruin wrote:
> @dima, @matthias
@dima, @matthias : this public forum is not an appropriate venue to discuss
personal disagreements. From what you both write I get the impression you
actually have a lot of common ground and only a few differences in opinion,
but that personalities and discussion styles exaggerate the
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 8:04 PM Matthias Koeppe
wrote:
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> On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 11:56:15 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 5:53 PM Matthias Koeppe
> wrote:
> > You are *assuming* that you are right, and then accuse me of blocking
> > progress, and of wasting your
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 11:56:15 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 5:53 PM Matthias Koeppe
wrote:
> You are *assuming* that you are right, and then accuse me of blocking
progress, and of wasting your time with the discussion; and then you demand
that I give in, based
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 5:53 PM Matthias Koeppe
wrote:
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> On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 9:14:14 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
> already the discussion on these minor points has taken so much time that we
> could have instead done 10 or 20 PRs
>
>
> This line of reasoning has been used several
On Tue, May 30, 2023 at 9:53 AM Matthias Koeppe
wrote:
> On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 9:14:14 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
> already the discussion on these minor points has taken so much time that
> we could have instead done 10 or 20 PRs
>
>
> This line of reasoning has been used several
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 9:14:14 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
already the discussion on these minor points has taken so much time that we
could have instead done 10 or 20 PRs
This line of reasoning has been used several times already, including by
you.
I have to point out that it is an
already the discussion on these minor points has taken so much time that we
could have instead done 10 or 20 PRs, but apparently for you, Matthias, the
priorities are elsewhere - defending your point of view takes precedence
over everything else.
I find it hugely damaging to the project.
On
On Tuesday, May 30, 2023 at 2:15:57 AM UTC-7 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
Once again, I think we should close ranks with the rest of scientific
python people and start following NEP 29.
We have much more urgent stuff to work on - buggy Pynac, buggy Singular
interface, etc, than the Python 3.8
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