[sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-21 Thread Dima Pasechnik
In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: Can we get Lion on bsd.math.washington.edu ? I could, but then we will no longer have a 10.6 build/test machine, I think, and that would be bad. Also, I can't do this

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-21 Thread R. Andrew Ohana
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 07:08, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: In gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel, you wrote: On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: Can we get Lion on bsd.math.washington.edu ? I could, but then we will no longer have a 10.6

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-21 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 11:31 PM, David Roe r...@math.harvard.edu wrote: As for why your viewpoint might be harmful: I have heard anecdotes of people not wanting to release their code because it was ugly, or nonstandard, or difficult to use, etc. As long as the response that they are going to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-20 Thread Dima Pasechnik
Can we get Lion on bsd.math.washington.edu ? sqrt5 is down again... Dima -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-20 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: Can we get Lion on bsd.math.washington.edu ? I could, but then we will no longer have a 10.6 build/test machine, I think, and that would be bad. Also, I can't do this until next week, since I'm in San Diego right now.

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-04 Thread Julien Puydt
Le 04/02/2012 07:39, Jonathan Bober a écrit : For another example: I recently tried to compile some of my own code using clang++ and discovered that I am not allowed to do void f(int j) { complexdouble x[j]; [...] } even though g++ accepts that. ( See

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-04 Thread Volker Braun
I agree of course that we should converse in a civil manner. On Friday, February 3, 2012 10:39:45 PM UTC-8, Jonathan Bober wrote: In general, person X might use nonstandard GNU extension Y for many reasons, In my experience, it usually boils down to 5) Person used language extension

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-03 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:04 AM, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:59:45 PM UTC-8, William wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-03 Thread John H Palmieri
On Friday, February 3, 2012 8:33:53 AM UTC-8, William wrote: Just to clarify, does gcc-4.2 *not* come with the latex XCode 4.x, but it came with earlier XCode 4.x's?I have gcc-4.2 on my laptop, and I've never installed anything but XCode 4.x on it. Just curious. I think that it came

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-03 Thread Jonathan Bober
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.netwrote: But it makes the code unportable. What hope do we have with the Sun/Oracle compiler if idiots use non-standard C? What hope do we have if we try to build on Windows at some point in the future using a native

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-03 Thread David Roe
As for why your viewpoint might be harmful: I have heard anecdotes of people not wanting to release their code because it was ugly, or nonstandard, or difficult to use, etc. As long as the response that they are going to receive it along the lines of the above, that viewpoint is valid, even

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-01 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:01:41 AM UTC+8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:04, John H Palmieri jhpalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:59:45 PM UTC-8, William wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-01 Thread R. Andrew Ohana
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 04:46, Dima Pasechnik dimp...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:01:41 AM UTC+8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:04, John H Palmieri jhpalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:59:45 PM UTC-8, William wrote: On

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-02-01 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Feb 1, 2012, at 04:46 , Dima Pasechnik wrote: On Wednesday, February 1, 2012 5:01:41 AM UTC+8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:04, John H Palmieri jhpalm...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I've started looking into the difficulties of getting sage to build with clang (on

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-31 Thread R. Andrew Ohana
On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:04, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:59:45 PM UTC-8, William wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-31 Thread Volker Braun
On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01:41 PM UTC-8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: (Beyond the issue of fortran) I'm not sure if it will be possible to build all of the sage libraries with clang. For instance, it currently doesn't yet support nested functions, which I know at least ratpoints uses. C

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-31 Thread R. Andrew Ohana
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 13:13, Volker Braun vbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01:41 PM UTC-8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: (Beyond the issue of fortran) I'm not sure if it will be possible to build all of the sage libraries with clang. For instance, it currently doesn't

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-31 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01:41 PM UTC-8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:04, John H Palmieri jhpalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:59:45 PM UTC-8, William wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-31 Thread Volker Braun
What I'm trying to say is: Upstream needs to be informed that they shouldn't use non-standard C extensions. Nested functions especially are a bad design choice in a world that is moving away from executable stacks. -- To post to this group, send an email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-31 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
On 01/31/12 09:20 PM, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 13:13, Volker Braunvbraun.n...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01:41 PM UTC-8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: (Beyond the issue of fortran) I'm not sure if it will be possible to build all of the sage libraries with

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-31 Thread R. Andrew Ohana
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 15:52, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: On 01/31/12 09:20 PM, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 13:13, Volker Braunvbraun.n...@gmail.com  wrote: On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01:41 PM UTC-8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: (Beyond the issue of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-31 Thread R. Andrew Ohana
On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 14:13, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:01:41 PM UTC-8, R. Andrew Ohana wrote: On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 10:04, John H Palmieri jhpalm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:59:45 PM UTC-8, William wrote:

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-30 Thread John H Palmieri
On Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:59:45 PM UTC-8, William wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:26 AM, John H Palmieri jhpalm...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-17 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
On 2012-01-17 03:24, Dan Drake wrote: Huh? So I guess running make test doesn't work right in sage-5.0.beta1 since sage-env is missing (why?). Is it related to http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/11073 ? Yes, it is. Should be fixed now in the latest version of #11073. -- To post to

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-17 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:26 AM, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 16, 2012 7:42:49 AM UTC-8, William wrote: Hi, A major blocker for Sage-5.0 is supporting OS X (version 10.7 -- the

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-17 Thread John Cremona
After building Sage on OS X 10.7, make test did this: For the record, running tests with sage -t devel/sage/sage yields hundred(s) of failing files:   http://wstein.org/home/wstein/tmp/test-sage-5.0.beta1-osx10.7.txt It could be that most of these boil down to some code at the core of

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-17 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:39 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 3:43 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:26 AM, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 16, 2012 7:42:49 AM UTC-8, William wrote: Hi, A

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-17 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:47 PM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: After building Sage on OS X 10.7, make test did this: For the record, running tests with sage -t devel/sage/sage yields hundred(s) of failing files:   http://wstein.org/home/wstein/tmp/test-sage-5.0.beta1-osx10.7.txt

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-17 Thread John Cremona
On 17 January 2012 23:04, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:47 PM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: After building Sage on OS X 10.7, make test did this: For the record, running tests with sage -t devel/sage/sage yields hundred(s) of failing files:  

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-17 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 2:16 PM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: On 17 January 2012 23:04, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:47 PM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: After building Sage on OS X 10.7, make test did this: For the record, running

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-17 Thread Justin C. Walker
On Jan 17, 2012, at 14:04 , William Stein wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:47 PM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: After building Sage on OS X 10.7, make test did this: Let me run the full test suite of Sage first, having built PARI with -O0 and see what happens. If that works,

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-17 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:20 PM, Justin C. Walker jus...@mac.com wrote: On Jan 17, 2012, at 14:04 , William Stein wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 1:47 PM, John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com wrote: After building Sage on OS X 10.7, make test did this: Let me run the full test suite of Sage

[sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-16 Thread John H Palmieri
On Monday, January 16, 2012 7:42:49 AM UTC-8, William wrote: Hi, A major blocker for Sage-5.0 is supporting OS X (version 10.7 -- the version that has been out for months now). Fortunately, it is now relatively easy to build sage-5.0.beta1 on OS X 10.7 with XCode 4.x, and have it start

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-16 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 9:26 AM, John H Palmieri jhpalmier...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, January 16, 2012 7:42:49 AM UTC-8, William wrote: Hi, A major blocker for Sage-5.0 is supporting OS X (version 10.7 -- the version that has been out for months now). Fortunately, it is now

Re: [sage-devel] Re: sage-5.0.x and OS X 10.7 Lion

2012-01-16 Thread Dan Drake
On Mon, 16 Jan 2012 at 03:43PM -0800, William Stein wrote: Testing that Sage starts... [2012-01-16 09:10:19] Sage version 5.0.beta1, released 2012-01-13 Yes, Sage starts. . local/bin/sage-env sage-maketest /bin/sh: local/bin/sage-env: No such file or directory make: *** [test] Error 1