On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 5:35 PM, William Stein wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Erik Bray wrote:
> [...]
>>
>> Anyways, speaking of comments, if you wanted to debug a specific
>> package you could, as William suggested, copy the example and comment
>> the package out from NORMAL_PACKAGES
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Erik Bray wrote:
[...]
>
> Anyways, speaking of comments, if you wanted to debug a specific
> package you could, as William suggested, copy the example and comment
> the package out from NORMAL_PACKAGES, thus excluding it from the macro
> expansion.
If you add a n
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 5:27 PM, Erik Bray wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 5:15 PM, William Stein wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:46 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>>> On 2018-01-31 14:37, Erik Bray wrote:
All that's changed is how they're presented.
>>>
>>>
>>> But that is a very imp
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 5:15 PM, William Stein wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:46 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>> On 2018-01-31 14:37, Erik Bray wrote:
>>>
>>> All that's changed is how they're presented.
>>
>>
>> But that is a very important change! It's like "all I changed is replacing
>> your
On Wednesday, January 31, 2018 at 2:46:10 PM UTC, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>
> On 2018-01-31 14:37, Erik Bray wrote:
> > All that's changed is how they're presented.
>
> But that is a very important change! It's like "all I changed is
> replacing your car by instructions on how to build a car".
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 6:46 AM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> On 2018-01-31 14:37, Erik Bray wrote:
>>
>> All that's changed is how they're presented.
>
>
> But that is a very important change! It's like "all I changed is replacing
> your car by instructions on how to build a car".
>
>> I'm replacing
Just one thing I want to respond to quickly:
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 3:46 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
>> At the end of the day, I just feel that if we're going to use these
>> tools at all it actually makes sense to use them closer to how they
>> were intended.
>
>
> I don't think that "make" is m
On 2018-01-31 14:37, Erik Bray wrote:
All that's changed is how they're presented.
But that is a very important change! It's like "all I changed is
replacing your car by instructions on how to build a car".
I'm replacing this:
I don't see it that way. In my mind you are replacing readabl
On Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> On 2018-01-31 12:21, Erik Bray wrote:
>>
>> I'm not going to say I didn't expect pushback from you on this, but I
>> feel like this is not a real argument.
>
>
> I assure you that it was meant as a serious argument. I'm not complaining
> for
On 2018-01-31 12:21, Erik Bray wrote:
I'm not going to say I didn't expect pushback from you on this, but I
feel like this is not a real argument.
I assure you that it was meant as a serious argument. I'm not
complaining for the sake of complaining.
In fact, the old code was still essential
Nice bugs, very tasty and crunchy, in the build system come from /bin/sh
not being bash on some systems.
And different versions of Make are sometimes a lot of fun, too.
Having said this, I much prefer short to verbose, and modular to "one huge
file with everything there" design.
On Wednesday,
On Tue, Jan 30, 2018 at 8:45 PM, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> On 2018-01-30 13:19, Erik Bray wrote:
>>
>> I think the resulting Makefile, and its
>> template, are easier to understand for one.
>
>
> This is unfortunately the part where I disagree and it is also the reason
> why I am against the current
On 2018-01-30 13:19, Erik Bray wrote:
I think the resulting Makefile, and its
template, are easier to understand for one.
This is unfortunately the part where I disagree and it is also the
reason why I am against the current patch. The resulting Makefile uses
some macro constructions which ma
Hi anyone interested in Sage (the distribution's) build system,
I have a ticket that's been languishing for months now which makes
some significant overhauls to how Sage's build/make/Makefile is
generated and structured: https://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/21524
I know we're all very busy and that it
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