On Thursday, 1 October 2015 16:35:20 UTC+2, Bill Page wrote:
> Unfortunately while I am very much in favor of the category/domain
> approach of Axiom and related systems, I find the Sage implementation
> of this idea almost entirely indigestible. Perhaps this is not the
> case for a suffici
On 1 October 2015 at 05:47, Juan Luis Cano wrote:
> ...
> The situation got better over the years (the IPython notebook was born, then
> Anaconda came to scene so I never ever had to recompile NumPy again) and
> it's been ages since I last used (and recommended) Sage for any real work.
> Perhaps S
Hi all,
Francesco's words resonated a lot with me, and I felt like telling my own
story in case it is of any interest.
I started my MSc in Aerospace Engineering in 2009 and got into open source
math software trough Sage around 2010 (probably googling "free alternative
to Mathematica"). Actuall
On 30 September 2015 at 10:07, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) <
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> O * HP 4284A precision frequency reference
>
Oops, the 4284A is a precision LCR meter, not a frequency reference. That
instrument is obsolete
http://www.keysight.com/en/pd-100
On 28 Sep 2015 18:25, "Francesco Biscani" wrote:
> I have always felt a tad confused and mislead by this statement.
>
> As someone who has interacted over the years with physicists and
engineers using daily Mathematica, Maple and Matlab, I see very little
overlap between their typical use of thes
On Tuesday, September 29, 2015, Bill Page
wrote:
> On 29 September 2015 at 19:41, Dima Pasechnik > wrote:
> >
> > cryptographers (some of them can certainly qualify as engineers) use
> Magma a lot.
> >
>
> OK. Would you say that Sage is a viable alternative for them?
>
>
No. Going into details
On Tuesday, September 29, 2015 at 4:44:07 PM UTC+2, bluescarni wrote:
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> It is true that you can use the NSPM stack from SAGE, but what are the key
> advantages of doing so? It is a honest question, maybe there's something I
> am overlooking.
>
In calculus you still want to have Maxima's integr
On 29 September 2015 at 19:41, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
> cryptographers (some of them can certainly qualify as engineers) use Magma a
> lot.
>
OK. Would you say that Sage is a viable alternative for them?
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On Tuesday, 29 September 2015 10:06:56 UTC-7, Bill Page wrote:
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> Given the serious situation in Sage funding I suppose that there is
> still a good reason for continuing this thread.
>
> On 28 September 2015 at 13:37, William Stein > wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Frances
Given the serious situation in Sage funding I suppose that there is
still a good reason for continuing this thread.
On 28 September 2015 at 13:37, William Stein wrote:
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> On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Francesco Biscani
> wrote:
> >> Exactly. And also the mission statement: viable alternati
On 28 September 2015 at 19:37, William Stein wrote:
>
> 1. Magma is also an Ma. Magma's incredibly good at pure mathematics.
> You seem to be leaving out Magma above.
>
I admit I know basically nothing about Magma (I did not know it even
existed before joining this list :).
> 2. You say "...
On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Francesco Biscani
wrote:
>> Exactly. And also the mission statement: viable alternative to the Ma's -
>> that is tricky!
>
>
> I have always felt a tad confused and mislead by this statement.
>
> As someone who has interacted over the years with physicists and en
>
> Exactly. And also the mission statement: viable alternative to the Ma's -
> that is tricky!
>
I have always felt a tad confused and mislead by this statement.
As someone who has interacted over the years with physicists and engineers
using daily Mathematica, Maple and Matlab, I see very litt
On Monday, September 28, 2015, kcrisman wrote:
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>>> The much-maligned controversial statement (Sage doomed) worth reviewing?
>>>
>>
>> Though I think the growth/survival of the SageMath project is in serious
>> jeopardy due to lack of funding, I for one am definitely not giving up.
>> The activi
>
>
>> The much-maligned controversial statement (Sage doomed) worth reviewing?
>>
>
> Though I think the growth/survival of the SageMath project is in serious
> jeopardy due to lack of funding, I for one am definitely not giving up.
> The activity is not doomed.
>
As usual, I think it's impo
Le dimanche 27 septembre 2015 20:20:18 UTC+2, William a écrit :
>
>
>
> On Sunday, September 27, 2015, Nathann Cohen > wrote:
>
>> What about the
>> manifold guys, for instance? Are they joining the project or do they
>> still develop on their own?
>>
>>
> I think sage-manifolds is being develo
On Sunday, September 27, 2015, Nathann Cohen
wrote:
> > Though I think the growth/survival of the SageMath project is in serious
> > jeopardy due to lack of funding, I for one am definitely not giving up.
> The
> > activity is not doomed. If anything the only thing to do is try much
> > harder,
> Though I think the growth/survival of the SageMath project is in serious
> jeopardy due to lack of funding, I for one am definitely not giving up. The
> activity is not doomed. If anything the only thing to do is try much
> harder, try a wider range of approaches to getting support, be more ope
On Sunday, September 27, 2015, rjf wrote:
> Unless you can argue that having a Sage port will increase sales, then the
> marketing types
> won't care.
>
> Unless you can argue that giving money to a university is a better way to
> pursue
> a research topic of interest, then the research types wou
Unless you can argue that having a Sage port will increase sales, then the
marketing types
won't care.
Unless you can argue that giving money to a university is a better way to
pursue
a research topic of interest, then the research types would rather pay
in-house.
If they were at all intereste
On 13 Sep 2015 21:49, "William Stein" wrote:
>> Agreed, the AIX interested from someone at IBM did go anywhere. But that
does not mean that an approach to other hardware/software vendors would
fail. If funding has dried up from research grants, perhaps another
approach is needed.
> I won't be pur
On Sunday, September 13, 2015, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) <
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13 September 2015 at 18:31, William Stein > wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, September 13, 2015, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) <
>> drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk
>> > wrote:
On 13 September 2015 at 18:31, William Stein wrote:
>
>
> On Sunday, September 13, 2015, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) <
> drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> A ticket I opened years ago about a problem on AIX, got closed recently.
>> It got me thinking about something whose us
On Sunday, September 13, 2015, Dr. David Kirkby (Kirkby Microwave Ltd) <
drkir...@kirkbymicrowave.co.uk> wrote:
> A ticket I opened years ago about a problem on AIX, got closed recently.
> It got me thinking about something whose usefulness could well extend
> beyond one issue building Sage on AI
A ticket I opened years ago about a problem on AIX, got closed recently. It
got me thinking about something whose usefulness could well extend beyond
one issue building Sage on AIX.
I gather William is having problems getting funding from NSF and similar
places. I wonder if it's time to look at t
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