Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-23 Thread Erik Bray
On Fri, Oct 20, 2017 at 11:47 PM, François Bissey wrote: > > > On 21/10/2017, at 10:37, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 10/20/2017 11:30 AM, Nils Bruin wrote: > > Do we actually get real benefit from packaging R with sage? It seems to > me R is a very

Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-22 Thread François Bissey
> On 22/10/2017, at 22:57, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > > IMHO, packagers, Debian and Conda (https://anaconda.org/conda-forge/sage > ), Fedora: > (https://apps.fedoraproject.org/packages/sagemath >

Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-22 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Sunday, October 22, 2017 at 9:32:43 AM UTC+1, Snark wrote: > > Hi, > > Le 22/10/2017 à 10:17, Dima Pasechnik a écrit : > > my limited experience with helping advanced R users was that it is not > really possible for them to use R from Sage, as they needed R packages that > in turn needed

Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-22 Thread 'Julien Puydt' via sage-devel
Hi, Le 22/10/2017 à 10:17, Dima Pasechnik a écrit : > my limited experience with helping advanced R users was that it is not really > possible for them to use R from Sage, as they needed R packages that in turn > needed Java runtime. > > And they much preferred things done in R-studio. At

Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-22 Thread Dima Pasechnik
my limited experience with helping advanced R users was that it is not really possible for them to use R from Sage, as they needed R packages that in turn needed Java runtime. And they much preferred things done in R-studio. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-21 Thread kcrisman
Every time we have this conversation, the point arises eventually that some people really do use the Sage-R interface. The packages in R do a lot more than statistics, and are the easiest place to get many of them (and similarly in Sage for R users). Then the question becomes how to make sure

Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-21 Thread François Bissey
> On 22/10/2017, at 13:27, Thierry wrote: > > As of Sage 7.4, doctests pass, but perhaps they are not strong enough to > show a possible blas/lapack conflict (before your email, i supposed that > rpy2 just calls R which calls the blas/lapack it is linked to, >

Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-21 Thread Thierry
Hi, On Sat, Oct 21, 2017 at 10:47:54AM +1300, François Bissey wrote: > > > > On 21/10/2017, at 10:37, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > > > On 10/20/2017 11:30 AM, Nils Bruin wrote: > >> Do we actually get real benefit from packaging R with sage? It seems to > >> me R is a

Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-21 Thread François Bissey
> On 22/10/2017, at 11:08, François Bissey wrote: > > People interested should look at the mess that is giac out of the box > (and in vanilla sage). Have to take that back, sage doesn’t build giac with lapack enabled, so you don’t have the double whammy of gslcblas and

Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-21 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Le vendredi 20 octobre 2017 20:54:37 UTC+2, Jan Groenewald a écrit : > > > > On 20 October 2017 at 18:27, Dima Pasechnik > wrote: > >> That is what I said a couple of times too. >> >> In particular, IMHO most R users use an IDE called R-studio, so for them >> the Sage's one

Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-20 Thread François Bissey
> On 21/10/2017, at 10:37, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 10/20/2017 11:30 AM, Nils Bruin wrote: >> Do we actually get real benefit from packaging R with sage? It seems to >> me R is a very popular, very mature piece of software. Isn't it easy to >> install R on any of

Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-20 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/20/2017 11:30 AM, Nils Bruin wrote: > Do we actually get real benefit from packaging R with sage? It seems to > me R is a very popular, very mature piece of software. Isn't it easy to > install R on any of the platforms supported by sage? If that is the > case, wouldn't it be much easier to

Re: [sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-20 Thread Jan Groenewald
On 20 October 2017 at 18:27, Dima Pasechnik wrote: > That is what I said a couple of times too. > > In particular, IMHO most R users use an IDE called R-studio, so for them > the Sage's one is not very useful. > > True, but I wouldn't rule out a growing market share for

[sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-20 Thread Dima Pasechnik
That is what I said a couple of times too. In particular, IMHO most R users use an IDE called R-studio, so for them the Sage's one is not very useful. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

[sage-devel] Use system R with sage?

2017-10-20 Thread Nils Bruin
Do we actually get real benefit from packaging R with sage? It seems to me R is a very popular, very mature piece of software. Isn't it easy to install R on any of the platforms supported by sage? If that is the case, wouldn't it be much easier to let sage just work with the system-wide R if