[sage-support] Re: Why solve(5^( x -1) == (0.04)^(2*x), x) returns empty set?

2014-11-19 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Le mardi 18 novembre 2014 17:10:42 UTC+1, Chris Seberino a écrit : > > Emmanuel > > Any way to make Sage act like it can't find the solution (emit question > back to user) INSTEAD of emitting the empty set? > > "I can't find the solution" and "There is no solution" are NOT the same > thing? >

[sage-support] Re: Version 6.4

2014-11-19 Thread slelievre
If I remember correctly these two variables need to be set to 'yes': SAGE_APP_BUNDLE SAGE_APP_DMG (I'm guessing that's the case, but just to make sure). Samuel Volker Braun wrote: > > No, the buildbot sets SAGE_APP_BUNDLE. Possibly a 10.10 SDK issue? > > On Tuesday, November 18, 2014 9:00:58 PM

[sage-support] Re: Version 6.4

2014-11-19 Thread Volker Braun
The old sage-bdist script saved the app and non-app version under the same name, somebody changed that without telling me. Rebuilding now.. On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 9:44:46 AM UTC, slelievre wrote: > > If I remember correctly these two variables need to be set to 'yes': > > SAGE_APP_BUNDL

[sage-support] Re: Why solve(5^( x -1) == (0.04)^(2*x), x) returns empty set?

2014-11-19 Thread Jakob Kroeker
> So you can assume that an empty list means only that sage's algorithms > find no solution. > I just looked at the documentation of solve and could not find an explicit statement about missed solutions. Even if it is expectable that in some cases (which?) solve may not return all solutions,

[sage-support] temporarily disappearing(?) of a file triggers a detach

2014-11-19 Thread Jakob Kroeker
Hello, when working with an attached file it seems that saving it (at least with gedit on our file system) sometimes causes a temporarily disappearance on that file. I have no idea, if this is caused by the used file system (mounted NFS) , but sometimes I get from sage ( at least for 6.4.beta

[sage-support] Re: temporarily disappearing(?) of a file triggers a detach

2014-11-19 Thread Volker Braun
afair there is already a timeout. You could add an optional argument attach(..., timeout=1000) On Wednesday, November 19, 2014 2:58:50 PM UTC, Jakob Kroeker wrote: > > Hello, > > > when working with an attached file it seems that saving it (at least with > gedit on our file system) > sometimes

[sage-support] Re: Version 6.4

2014-11-19 Thread kcrisman
> The old sage-bdist script saved the app and non-app version under the same > name, somebody changed that without telling me. Rebuilding now.. > > Aha! Yes, that is true - http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/16919 - and that actually is a feature, along with some other nice things. Unfortunately

[sage-support] Re: Why solve(5^( x -1) == (0.04)^(2*x), x) returns empty set?

2014-11-19 Thread kcrisman
> > So you can assume that an empty list means only that sage's algorithms >> find no solution. >> > > I just looked at the documentation of solve and could not find an explicit > statement about missed solutions. > > Even if it is expectable that in some cases (which?) solve may not return > a

[sage-support] Re: Why solve(5^( x -1) == (0.04)^(2*x), x) returns empty set?

2014-11-19 Thread Jakob Kroeker
kcrisman: > It is similar to how our Booleans on expression comparisons return False > if we can't prove True > Could the usage of a sort of Tristate/multistate implementation kill that universe of worms? (With the following design: Tristate only comparable to Tristate objects) Jakob A

[sage-support] Re: Why solve(5^( x -1) == (0.04)^(2*x), x) returns empty set?

2014-11-19 Thread Emmanuel Charpentier
Le mercredi 19 novembre 2014 16:31:35 UTC+1, Jakob Kroeker a écrit : > > kcrisman: > > >> It is similar to how our Booleans on expression comparisons return False >> if we can't prove True >> > > > Could the usage of a sort of Tristate/multistate implementation kill that > universe of worms?

[sage-support] Re: Why solve(5^( x -1) == (0.04)^(2*x), x) returns empty set?

2014-11-19 Thread Robert Dodier
On 2014-11-20, Emmanuel Charpentier wrote: > BTW, Maxima has this kind of logic (for example, "is" can return "true", > "false" or "unknown") and uses it, so it's at least conceptually doable. > And useful ! But with very deep consequences. For the record, Maxima has a global flag prederror w