[sage-support] Re: 3 == pi

2008-06-05 Thread Gary Furnish
I don't see any concrete reason why is_true(x) and is_false(!x) must be identical... we've already lost a sane definition of equality in many ways if floating point numbers are involved, so keeping it this way isn't going to make it any worse. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Kyle Schalm <[EMAIL P

[sage-support] Re: 3 == pi

2008-06-04 Thread Gary Furnish
gt; On Jun 4, 2008, at 5:05 PM, Gary Furnish wrote: > >> Errors should not under any circumstances be thrown if bool(x==y) is >> inconclusive. It would break half of the code that depends on >> symbolics, and would require try blocks around every if statement. > > Can you

[sage-support] Re: 3 == pi

2008-06-04 Thread Gary Furnish
+1 to "Rigerous" testing of equality, but being able to rigorously show if something is not equal is hard (and in many nontrivial cases not possible). bool() should return true "if it can be shown to be equal" On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 6:23 PM, Jason Grout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Robert Brad

[sage-support] Re: 3 == pi

2008-06-04 Thread Gary Furnish
Errors should not under any circumstances be thrown if bool(x==y) is inconclusive. It would break half of the code that depends on symbolics, and would require try blocks around every if statement. On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Carl Witty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Jun 4, 4:16 pm, Rober

[sage-support] Re: 3 == pi

2008-05-16 Thread Gary Furnish
+1 to this. Sage Enhancement Proposal: Change comparisons that involve elements of the symbolic ring to return True or False if both sides of the symbolic comparison are constants and the comparison can be definitely determined. [...] There would be a discussion on sage-devel, probably some voti

[sage-support] Re: Complex Number Manipulations in Functions of Symbolic Variables?

2008-05-06 Thread Gary Furnish
yes On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 4:48 AM, David Joyner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 10:27 PM, William Stein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 6:53 PM, dvase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > It seems as though I am missing