RE: [SA-list] SA - Health Check

2003-09-03 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
default primary TO (smtp) dirk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Stone Sent: Wed Sep 03 11:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SA-list] SA - Health Check SA has this built in - sort of. You can have it send a keepalive messa

RE: [5] RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Kevin Kruithof
Title: Message Dirk,   Saving SA's monitor states would be useful to us also, so I've been watching this discussion carefully.   Since SA's config is a flat file with index numbers for each monitor, could you create another file in the SA directory that keeps track of monitor states?  All it

RE: [5] RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
I suppose that an alert 'action' that would puts an entry into maintenance would help?   dirk. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Jason PassowSent: Wed Sep 03 10:56 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [5] RE: [SA-list] change in

RE: [4] RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Jason Passow
If you save the host file after putting them into maintenance mode they will remain in maintenance mode until you change them back and save the file again. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sutherland, Bryon Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 200

RE: [SA-list] SA - Health Check

2003-09-03 Thread Kevin Stone
SA has this built in - sort of. You can have it send a keepalive message every x minutes. If you set that to every 1440 minutes that will be 24 hours. This doesn't completely solve your problem since you would get messages every 24 hours after you start SA. I haven't tried it but you could have

RE: [5] RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Jason Passow
The problem is…. how does SA know that you knew that it was still down.    Perhaps you are doing maintenance from afar (using vnc or term serv) and reboot the server.  When it comes up you have assumed (which I am sure no one on this list would do) it is fixed and did not get an alert le

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Sutherland, Bryon
A similar issue involves systems that have been placed into 'ad hoc' maintenance mode. I put them into maintenance mode so they wouldn't page anyone while they're down, but if someone restarts SA it will assume that the system should be up and thus will page. To unsubscribe from a list, send a mai

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Brent Ozar
I know this isn't really the question, but it makes me laugh: if I had 20-30 devices down that aren't dependent on each other (because you can set up dependencies in SA and only get a single alert), man, I'd either quit my job or my boss would fire me. Brent Ozar

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
Use SSH instead of telnet :-) telnet is CLEAR text!! dirk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brent Ozar Sent: Wed Sep 03 10:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SA-list] change in state Why isn't everybody using Telnet to do their ba

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Brent Ozar
Why isn't everybody using Telnet to do their basic maintenance? You know you can Telnet into SA and do a lot of maintenance stuff from anywhere, right? Brent Ozar - UniFocus "How vain it is to sit down to write when you have not

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
v4 is more responsive...and the latest beta even more... dirk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ferrell, Jim Sent: Wed Sep 03 10:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [SA-list] change in state I do not know if it applies to version 4

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Ferrell, Jim
I do not know if it applies to version 4, but with version 3 it is difficult to perform maintenance when SA is doing checks. The application is not responsive while checks are running. If that is not the case with version 4, I would leave it alone. Otherwise, you might consider looking into the i

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Troy . Bruder
Exactly --- Troy Bruder, Manager - Hosting and Microsoft Services APT Information Technology Consultants 7540 Windsor Dr. STE 204 Allentown, PA 18195 Phone 610.366.1100 -or- 888.2.GET.APT http://www.aptconsulting.com

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Riley, Stephen
This is what I asked a couple of weeks ago too. I am siding with Troy. We have people here that rather than put SA in maintenance will just shut it down and when we find this and start it up we are alerted regarding all the down conditions that we were already aware of. The checks are set to ale

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Riley, Stephen
A couple of common reasons here: An operator hits the X instead of the - on the application. Perform Microsoft updates on the Servers Alive machine requires multiple reboots. I think that is the question. Is it possible to track the status another way, so that once that down alert has been sent no

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
Why stop the app? When stopping and restarting (even the checking) we reset the internal status. dirk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jason Passow Sent: Wed Sep 03 9:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SA-list] change in state He

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
Why did you stop the app? Why not let it run? It will still see the down, but won't alert you anymore... dirk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed Sep 03 9:38 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SA-list] change

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Troy . Bruder
The problem is 30 additional messages to my pager after I've already received them. --- Troy Bruder, Manager - Hosting and Microsoft Services APT Information Technology Consultants 7540 Windsor Dr. STE 204 Allentown, PA 18195 Phone 610.366.1100 -or- 888.2.GET.APT http://www.aptconsulting.com

RE: [SA-list] SA - Health Check

2003-09-03 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
Create a new entry that checks and set it to alerts you ALWAYS (paging). Then set to schedule from 6h00 until 6h15. And depending on how long your "normal" cycle takes you could set the priority to 1 out of 2/3/4 dirk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

[SA-list] SA - Health Check

2003-09-03 Thread Ferrell, Jim
I have been assigned a mission to perform pre-production health checks. One item on my list is to have Servers Alive send a page everyday at 6:00 AM to confirm that Servers Alive is working. Does anyone have creative solution? Jim Ferrell EDS - Allison Transmission Mail Stop M-12A 4700 W 10th

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Jason Passow
He already got the alert that it was down. Then started server's alive again why should he get more down alerts. (I am just arguing his point not taking sides.) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx Sent: Wednesday, September 03

RE: [SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
It is realy down, so were is the problem? dirk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed Sep 03 7:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SA-list] change in state Hello, Maybe this has already been asked, and I missed i

[SA-list] change in state

2003-09-03 Thread Troy . Bruder
Hello, Maybe this has already been asked, and I missed it... Currently it appears that SA tracks the current state of a device in RAM while it's running... The problem is.. If I have 20-30 devices that are currently down, and I stop the SA application to make a change, then re-start it, I now

RE: [SA-list] Remote *nix process checking for Servers Alive

2003-09-03 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
Bettter to send the response directly to me and not to the list. dirk. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kevin Stone Sent: Wed Sep 03 5:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SA-list] Remote *nix process checking for Servers Alive It wo

RE: [SA-list] Remote *nix process checking for Servers Alive

2003-09-03 Thread Kevin Stone
It works with OpenBSD 3.3 and SSH2. -Kevin > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dirk Bulinckx > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SA-list] Remote *nix process checking for Servers Alive >

[SA-list] Remote *nix process checking for Servers Alive

2003-09-03 Thread Dirk Bulinckx
We would like to make an addon to Servers ALive that is able to check a remote process on a unix/linux/bsd/... machine. We build a small test app for it. If you are interested please download it and test it. If it works (or doesn't work), please let me know: OS protocol (telnet or s