[SA-list] Database checks

2006-05-25 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Currently we have within Servers Alive a check for MS-SQL and Oracle. There is a free add-on for mySQL (http://www.woodstone.nu/salive/addons.asp), there is also a "generic" ODBC checker on that same page. What other databases would you like to see in that list? Please include the v

[SA-list] Is the list working?

2006-05-25 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
 . as I haven't received any new postings for several days ? Regards Irene For the latest data on the economy and society consult National Statistics at http://www.statistics.gov.uk * Please Note: Incoming an

[SA-list] HTML output (now faster)

2006-05-25 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
In the latest pre-beta build we can cache the HTML templates. Why is this better/faster? Instead of re-reading the template each time from disk (and use slow diskaccess!) we read it once and then use it from memory. You can enable this option via setup-general-startup. http://beta.woodstone.nu

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Is the list working?

2006-05-25 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Yes it is. As you can see on http://archive.woodstone.nu there was 1 message yesterday and one other on the 23rd, and a couple on the 22nd.       Dirk Bulinckx.   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 3:45 PMTo: Servers Alive

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Monitoring remote servers

2006-05-22 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
A beta tester to read what is on paper? Not yet in need of testers But if we need some...we will ask for it on the list Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 11:10 AM To: Servers Alive

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Monitoring remote servers

2006-05-22 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Looking for any beta testers ? :) Typically our clients wouldn't allow netbios traffic in/out of their network. With some we have VPN links to the site, but for the most part we don't or only have dial-up vpn access. -Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mai

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Monitoring remote servers

2006-05-22 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Servers Alive does not have a client module (this is one of the strong points of SA!). We use the normal protocols as if SA would be a client of the network. For diskspace/process/service/perfmon this means that we need NetBIOS access to the "remote" system. Being in a different NT/Wi

[SA-list] Monitoring remote servers

2006-05-22 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Hi, How does Servers Alive handle monitoring remote servers on the other end of a Wan (internet) link which are on a different domain ? I'm looking for something to monitor clients servers, which will be on the other end of the net, with several firewalls between us, and certainly on thei

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2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
ginal Message- > From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 3:40 PM > To: Servers Alive Discussion List > Subject: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] > What if all checks fail? > > I could see a case for eith

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2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
(and SK enabled) what to recheck? "Port host" ? And what if that gives a down? Also "service host"? And if that is down? Also "ping host"? But I agree something to think about. Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mai

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2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
I could see a case for either "Not Available" or "OK" OK because the last time you checked it (first pass through) it was OK. On the Second Knock the parent failed, so you would normally mark it as Not Available. -tom -Original Message- From: Servers A

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2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
OK I understand. BUT what to do for snmp_1 on host? Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:05 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] What if all checks fail

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] What if all checks fail?

2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
An item being queued for a SECOND KNOCK should automatically queue its "parent" item. This would have to be recursive right back up to the root and ideally could be a configuration options (second knock on parent: y/n) -Tom -----Original Message- From: Servers Alive

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2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
] ph: (507) 494-5178 fax: (507) 454-8104 "If you do everything right, nobody will realize you've done anything at all." Servers Alive Discussion List wrote: > If the parent check would be down, then it would not check the childs or do > the recheck on second knock. > The

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] What if all checks fail?

2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
 I do that very thing. I run a 2nd (owned) copy at our DR Data Center monitoring the primary.   Michael D. ShookTechnical AnalystSaddle Creek CorporationMichael.Shook@saddlecrk.com863 668 4477 (work)863 860 4070 (cell)863 665 1261 (fax)www.saddlecrk.com   From: Servers Alive

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2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
snmp_2 on host ping host url_1 on host Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 7:41 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] What if all

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] What if all checks fail?

2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
port Tel: +44 1236 502661 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Servers Alive Discussion List 18/05/2006 16:35 Please respond to Servers Alive Discussion List To Servers Alive Discussion List cc Subject [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] What if all checks fail? No that can''t be done. We

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] What if all checks fail?

2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Try to adjust the logic of the check dependencies to prevent this from happening. Servers Alive is a great product, but it has it's limitations, and one often has to think a little for it. I do a lot of what I call "sanity" checks that have to work in order for my real checks to e

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] What if all checks fail?

2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Title: What if all checks fail? To help reduce that traffic, we make all checks for a server dependent upon the ping of the server.  At least that way you only get one page instead of several on a given server.   Jim Ferrell EDS - Allison Transmission From: Servers Alive Discussion List

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] What if all checks fail?

2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
g down, and this can be configured via the setup - alerts - executive alerts.  The executive alerts are checked at the end of the cycle only.     Dirk Bulinckx.   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 5:25 PMTo: Servers Alive Discussion L

[SA-list] What if all checks fail?

2006-05-18 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Title: What if all checks fail? I am using SNPP to notify support personnel when a system's checks fail. I am going to build another SA system for a new facility with a dedicated paging server. The catch is that the new configuration won't have the SA system separated from the paging ser

[SA-list] Threading

2006-05-17 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Could those of you that got the "threading registry hack" from me, please contact me OFF LIST! Dirk Bulinckx. To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to salive@woodstone.nu

[SA-list] Re: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] RRD batch processing

2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
ntrusions to my "play" time I don't have a timetable as to when that would be complete. I'm more than happy to help anyone who wants to give it a try. -Kevin Servers Alive Discussion List wrote: > RRDcgi pages eh? Neat. Any chance of sharing them? > > Ian > _

[SA-list] Re: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] RRD batch processing

2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
RRDcgi pages eh? Neat. Any chance of sharing them? Ian _ Ian K Gray OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support Tel: +44 1236 502661 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Sent via Blackberry - Original Message - From: Servers Alive Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15

[SA-list] Re: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RRD batch processing

2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
e previous one...  ;-)Outstanding work Dirk.Ian_Ian K GrayOEL IS - European Infrastructure SupportTel: +44 1236 502661Mob: +44 7881 518854Sent via Blackberry  - Original Message -----  From: Servers Alive Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent: 15/05/2006

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2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Me too! Most recent was @9:31am EDT   Michael D. ShookTechnical AnalystSaddle Creek CorporationMichael.Shook@saddlecrk.com863 668 4477 (work)863 860 4070 (cell)863 665 1261 (fax)www.saddlecrk.com   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May

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2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
mails from GMail.   Sorry about this.   Dirk Bulinckx.   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 4:10 PMTo: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Speed (was SA Future Direction) I keep ge

[SA-list] Re: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Speed (was SA Future Direction)

2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
I keep getting these blank emails from the list - is it just me or are other people getting these? Ian _ Ian K Gray OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support Tel: +44 1236 502661 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Servers Alive Discussion List 15/05/2006 14:20 Please

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RRD batch processing

2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
aphs to be generated after the update, we have to wait for the update to be done. And it's the app (Servers Alive that is waiting).  What we could do is the following:     IF the "wait until..." option is checked then     change update BAT file so that it calls the graph bat fi

[SA-list] Re: [SA-list] RRD batch processing

2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Do you run the RRD graph batch at the end of every cycle? I used the Windows Task scheduler to run the batch file once an hour and also pointed my RRDcgi pages to the RRD directory to create graphs on the fly. I would not tie my cycle times up with graph generation. -Kevin Servers Alive

[SA-list] Re: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Speed (was SA Future Direction)

2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
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[SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Speed (was SA Future Direction)

2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
obody will realize you've done anything at all." Servers Alive Discussion List wrote: > > I've found the problem! We run VNC on the SA server to allow us to > access the console. I've just stopped the VNC server service, and lo > and behold SA started racing th

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] SA Speed (was SA Future Direction)

2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
 Not specifially with Salive, but it's not used widely here due to its impact on server performance.   //steve From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: den 15 maj 2006 12:20To: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] SA Speed (was SA Future Dire

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RRD batch processing

2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
I thought about that one too :-)   Not yet sure how do split, nor how to make it flexible enough Probably it will be more something like every cycles instead of each cycle       Dirk Bulinckx.   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 15

[SA-list] RRD batch processing

2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Here's another thought for a feature request that would help with cycle times. As I've mentioned, the RRD batch processing on our checks takes about 3-4 mins every check cycle. Whilst the hourly and daily graphs need to be done immediately, I could happily live with a less frequent update for the

[SA-list] SA Speed (was SA Future Direction)

2006-05-15 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
t. Has anyone else found that problem with VNC? Ian _ Ian K Gray OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support Tel: +44 1236 502661 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Servers Alive Discussion List 12/05/2006 21:05 Please respond to Servers Alive Discussion List To Serv

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Authentication per server vs. per check

2006-05-14 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
eaning once for the services, once for the processes, once for diskspace and once for perfmon.     Dirk Bulinckx.   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 2:10 PMTo: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] Authentication per serve

[SA-list] Authentication per server vs. per check

2006-05-14 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
e shared by all dependent checks, if they need to log on?   //Steve From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Fri 5/12/2006 11:00 PMTo: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] RE: [S

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2006-05-13 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
We have about 100 servers, 40 over wan links and for each server   CPU % DIsk measures * 2     plus other checks related to services, temp measures etc.   about 400 checks in total   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 May 2006 14:15To: Servers Alive

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2006-05-13 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
 Wow, that sounds exactly like our setup.   :-)   Michael D. ShookTechnical AnalystSaddle Creek CorporationMichael.Shook@saddlecrk.com863 668 4477 (work)863 860 4070 (cell)863 665 1261 (fax)www.saddlecrk.com   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
uess what we're running it as service on Win2000so we are waiting for his fix for that. Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:50 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: [SA-list] RE: [S

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Uh Is this: (RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] ) the product of the list software, or misconfigured client software? It's a bit ridiculous - and this isn't the longest one, either. Whatever software i

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
checks all in a row. An interesting aside, security folks made us turn > on full security logging. Server crashed because SA filled up the logs. > > Jim F. > > -----Original Message- > From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, May 12, 200

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
e chekced and for each of them we do need to "ask" for their status. Still something I'm going to have a real deeper look next week (I hope). Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 10

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
same server over and over again to do the checks all in a row. An interesting aside, security folks made us turn on full security logging. Server crashed because SA filled up the logs. Jim F. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
k, an snmp check of attached ups, and maybe a db2 check. Ian_Ian K GrayOEL IS - European Infrastructure SupportTel: +44 1236 502661Mob: +44 7881 518854Sent via Blackberry  - Original Message -  From: Servers Alive Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent: 12/05/20

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
So if we would get the status of all 8 of those services in one go and use that for the 8 entries we would be able to speed-up the cycle aspecialy if for each entry SA needs to redo the authentication. Just a thought. Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
 couple of  servers being monitored are 600 miles away.   We are pinging remote devices all over the place. (WAN).   Jim From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 3:55 PMTo: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
> Ian K Gray > OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support > Tel: +44 1236 502661 > Mob: +44 7881 518854 > Sent via Blackberry > > > ----- Original Message - > From: Servers Alive Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12/05/2006 21:05 > To: Servers Alive Disc

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
1 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Sent via Blackberry - Original Message - From: Servers Alive Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/05/2006 21:05 To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA-lis

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
I can't speak for Jim but in my implementation we averaged approximately 8 service checks per server. There were few process checks but they tended to be clustered on the same server. -Kevin Servers Alive Discussion List wrote: >  > > About those stats > (Ping Che

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
ea on some "stats".   Per SERVER how many service - process - perfmon - diskspace checks do you do?  Is it just one of each or at least 2 service and 3 process and 1 perfmon and 2 diskspace.. I would like to get an idea on that.       Dirk Bulinckx.   From: Servers Alive Discussion L

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
I was running mine on a desktop with a single P4-3Ghz and 512mb of RAM. Hardware shouldn't be a problem for you. -Kevin Servers Alive Discussion List wrote: >  > > I guess you mean twin procs (346 is only dual) - it's that pesky Xeon > thing appearing as two. But that

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
responsiveness.   Jim From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:50 PMTo: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Future Direction Hmmm... So what's the key difference? There must be a fundam

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
  5 0.77%Lotus Notes DB Checks   1 0.15%)   Is it correct to say that the service and processes are partialy on the same systems?  And that you check more then one service and more then one process on the same server?   Dirk Bulinckx.   From: Servers Alive Discussion List

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
opean Infrastructure SupportTel: +44 1236 502661Mob: +44 7881 518854Sent via Blackberry  - Original Message -  From: Servers Alive Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent: 12/05/2006 20:30  To: Servers Alive Discussion List   Subject: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re:

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Good idea but... No, and no. _ Ian K Gray OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support Tel: +44 1236 502661 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Sent via Blackberry - Original Message - From: Servers Alive Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12/05/2006 19:40 To: Servers

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
0.31%DNS Checks  5 0.77%Lotus Notes DB Checks   1 0.15%  Total Checks 648 SA Cycle Time (sec)  240 Checks Per Sec.  2.7   Most checks take 0.25 sec.Perfmon checks take about 0.5 sec.   HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\DBU Consulting\Servers Alive

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Do you get a lot of failed checks? If so make sure the timeouts are reasonable. The defaults are high for most things on a LAN. Are there other things running on the server? -Kevin Servers Alive Discussion List wrote: >  > > Hmmm... So what's the key difference? There must be

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
 Hmmm... So what's the key difference? There must be a fundamental difference in config somewhere..._Ian K GrayOEL IS - European Infrastructure SupportTel: +44 1236 502661Mob: +44 7881 518854Sent via Blackberry  - Original Message -  From: Servers

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
 No I am not running multithreaded.   Jim F. From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:15 PMTo: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Future Direction Jim,Can you confirm if you're running the multithread

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
 Jim,Can you confirm if you're running the multithread beta?Ian_Ian K GrayOEL IS - European Infrastructure SupportTel: +44 1236 502661Mob: +44 7881 518854Sent via Blackberry  - Original Message -  From: Servers Alive Discussion List [EMAIL PROT

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 12:45 PMTo: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Future Direction That makes sense, and I could live with that if LAN checks were fast. But I only get maybe

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
I ain't so beta tester.   Runnin' 5.1.1964 on a Proliant DL380 w/ twin 3.2 Gz Xeons and Server 2003   I will say that 75% are LAN now that we've centralized server data centers   "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\DBU Consulting\Servers Alive\IntervalBetweenChecks"

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Message -  From: Servers Alive Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent: 12/05/2006 17:40  To: Servers Alive Discussion List   Subject: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Future Direction NO I think they are running it threaded, while you are not. The threading can be enabled but for the

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Ian   We have fast WANS as well and still find the checks significantly slower than local, think its down to latency rather than bandwidth; especially disk size checks etc   Dave       From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 May 2006 17:30To: Servers Alive

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
 We are doing a wide variety of checks, no RRD.  I export to SQL*Server instead.  We do reporting/graphs from there.   I do believe we had to do a registry tweak to reduce the delay between checks.   Jim Ferrell EDS - Allison Transmission From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Future Direction

2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
NO I think they are running it threaded, while you are not. The threading can be enabled but for the moment there is only a small list of "beta" testers for it.   Dirk Bulinckx.   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 6:30 PMT

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
A quick sanity check: both "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\DBU Consulting\Servers Alive\IntervalBetweenChecks" and "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\DBU Consulting\Servers Alive\StartUp\PerItemCycle" are string values, yes? Both are set to 10. Ian ___

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Future Direction

2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Ian   We have fast WANS as well and still find the checks significantly slower than local, think its down to latency rather than bandwidth; especially disk size checks etc   Dave       From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 May 2006 17:30To: Servers Alive

[SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Future Direction

2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
cess. Ian _ Ian K Gray OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support Tel: +44 1236 502661 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Servers Alive Discussion List 12/05/2006 16:50 Please respond to Servers Alive Discussion List To Servers Alive Discussion List cc Subject [SA-list] Re

[SA-list] Re: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Future Direction

2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
That seems REALLY slow. I was running over 1000 checks with many RRDs, HTML generation, etc and I was never over 15 minutes. With some tuning and pruning I cut that in half with recent betas. What kind of hardware? -Kevin Servers Alive Discussion List wrote: > > Four checks per second?

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Future Direction

2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
k.com   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 11:06 AMTo: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] SA Future Direction Four checks per second??? How do you manage that? What sort of checks are they? I'd be plea

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Awesome! I'm holding my breath... Ian _ Ian K Gray OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support Tel: +44 1236 502661 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Servers Alive Discussion List 12/05/2006 16:15 Please respond to Servers Alive Discussion List To Servers

[SA-list] RADIUS check(s)

2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
I'm looking for a user that is doing more then 1 radius check within a cycle. Could you please contact me offlist? (dirk at woodstone dot nu) Dirk Bulinckx. To unsubscribe send a message with UNSUBSCRIBE as subject to salive@woodstone.nu

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] SMTP2POP3 produce event 1106, error 0x478

2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Looks like you're having a problem on your Exchange cluster.. Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 5:05 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: [SA-list] SMTP2POP3 produce event 1106,

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] SA Future Direction

2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
checks per seconds/minute and the cycle time will be reduced but that doesn't mean that you would have more logging. The interval time (if you let that how it is) will still work in the same way.     Dirk Bulinckx.   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday,

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
e WAN will take a bit longer). Ian _ Ian K Gray OEL IS - European Infrastructure Support Tel: +44 1236 502661 Mob: +44 7881 518854 Servers Alive Discussion List 12/05/2006 15:55 Please respond to Servers Alive Discussion List To Servers Alive Discu

[SA-list] SMTP2POP3 produce event 1106, error 0x478

2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Hi, we use SMTP2POP3 to check our external mail connection. Since 3 month we got a lot for errors. ServerAlive reported "External COM check (W0008,7):ERR POP3:-ERR The requested mailbox is not available on this server." In Eventlog on POP3-Server (Exchange 2003 Cluster) we found: Event Source

[SA-list] SA Future Direction

2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Title: SA Future Direction Since everyone is weighing in, I have two add my two cents worth. Multi-threading It would be nice if SA ran a little faster, but be careful what you ask for.  We are currently running four checks per second.  If that number is significantly increased, I can fore

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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
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2006-05-12 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
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2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
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2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Sure and it would also give us a big issue with people creating none-SA-compliant XML files :-( Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:55 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: [SA-list] RE

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2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
I forgot one final point on the XML vs Enterprise storage issues: The "big boys": could build a SQL based config engine and generate the XML hostfile out of it and get the best of both worlds. Could even be a new product for woodstone to sell: the SQL version of the hostconfig - and updates -

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Re: [SA-list] Enterprise level data storage (was Skype Alerting)

2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
My final comments on the topic - since I seem to have started a lively debate. Reasons why XML would be nice: 1) The ability for someone to take the output of scan ( like the output of NMAP?) and generate new checks into the hostfile via some external process is the best example I can

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Issue with re-pointing to a new database...

2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
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2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
ABSOLUTELY Especially if it had a once a day update feature. Michael D. Shook Technical Analyst Saddle Creek Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED] 863 668 4477 (work) 863 860 4070 (cell) 863 665 1261 (fax) www.saddlecrk.com > -Original Message- > From: Servers Alive Discussio

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2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Title: Issue with re-pointing to a new database... The settings are kept in the registry and if you enable/disable you just change that flag, not the actual info.     Dirk Bulinckx.   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:50 PMTo

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2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
IF we get to doing this it will be in several steps. The first being will be like an "export" option were you would "ask" (manualy that is) to export the entries file to a db. Would that already help? Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Dis

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2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
orationMichael.Shook@saddlecrk.com863 668 4477 (work)863 860 4070 (cell)863 665 1261 (fax)www.saddlecrk.com   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 1:40 PMTo: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [S

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2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
I'm not promising that we will do this. I still think it's a HUGE thing for a little use. Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message----- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 7:00 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion List Subject: [SA-lis

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Issue with re-pointing to a new database...

2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Title: Issue with re-pointing to a new database... The owner info is taken (I think) via the ODBC connection.    Dirk Bulinckx.   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:55 PMTo: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] RE: [SA

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2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
ou do everything right, nobody will realize you've done anything at all." Servers Alive Discussion List wrote: > Since we're (or least I am) talking about situations in an enterprise > environment, the answer is yes, absolutely. If you can get it to work > for SA, we can report o

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2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
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[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Issue with re-pointing to a new database...

2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
)www.saddlecrk.com   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 12:06 PMTo: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Issue with re-pointing to a new database... Restart SA and try again.   Dirk Bulinckx

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2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
SA could do that, but could your report writer do that? As that seems to be THE reason for the db, writing reports from it. Dirk Bulinckx. -Original Message- From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 6:15 PM To: Servers Alive Discussion

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2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
ou've done anything at all." Servers Alive Discussion List wrote: > That just the whole point. We could indeed have a table for each check > type. But how to link that in a proper way to a table with the host info? > The UID is indeed the column to use. But for a report you need

[SA-list] RE: [SA-list] Issue with re-pointing to a new database...

2006-05-11 Thread Servers Alive Discussion List
Title: Issue with re-pointing to a new database... Restart SA and try again.   Dirk Bulinckx.   From: Servers Alive Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 5:56 PMTo: Servers Alive Discussion ListSubject: [SA-list] Issue with re-pointing to a new database

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