Re: The continuing saga... (rapidly heading OT)

1999-06-15 Thread Aley Keprt
PLEASE STOP! I think we have enough.. Aley [eili] Keprt - student, programmer (multimedia soft. etc.) phone: +420-68-538 70 35 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://get.to/aley

Re: The continuing saga... (enough?)

1999-06-10 Thread Thomas Harte
How come all we ever talk about these days is copyright issues? Strictly speaking that is part of the reason for GPL! The coders want the right to share source again, man. But this isn't the thread for all that. I always thought we were developers - not lawyers. Maybe it's a new trend?

Re: The continuing saga... (rapidly heading OT)

1999-06-09 Thread Andrew Collier
At 12:08 am +0100 9/6/99, James Gasson wrote: Andrew Collier wrote: But even if he were, the situations are entirely asymmetric. The copyright-owners of the games will suffer financial loss due to piracy. Allan Skillman would not suffer financial loss due to the distribution of SimCoupe

Re: The continuing saga... (rapidly heading OT)

1999-06-09 Thread Ian Collier
On Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 12:07:17AM +0100, Andrew Collier wrote: And the GPL is flawed anyway - Si might assert that his code to interface to Win32 instead of Linux is a differentiable work, in which case the GPL doesn't need to

Re: The continuing saga... (rapidly heading OT)

1999-06-09 Thread Andrew Collier
On Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 12:07:17AM +0100, Andrew Collier wrote: And the GPL is flawed anyway - Si might assert that his code to interface to Win32 instead of Linux is a differentiable work, in which case the GPL doesn't need to

Re: The continuing saga... (rapidly heading OT)

1999-06-09 Thread James Gasson
Andrew Collier wrote: Okay, I've just noticed that they indeed do have to be distributed seperately, but that should then fit the terms. Actually, since the LGPL (...) PS. This is getting *way* off topic. Can we do something more appropriate with it? It's been a while since anyone posted to

Re: The continuing saga... (rapidly heading OT)

1999-06-09 Thread Andrew Collier
At 3:26 am +0100 9/6/99, Robert Brady wrote: On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Andrew Collier wrote: Actually, since the LGPL was changed a few months ago, the infection principle is almost as strong as in GPL (ie. loony RMS has broken the LGPL beyond repair). Um, no. All LGPL2.1 does is to fix some typos,

RE: The continuing saga... (enough?)

1999-06-09 Thread Justin Skists
How come all we ever talk about these days is copyright issues? I always thought we were developers - not lawyers. Maybe it's a new trend? Once upon a time, when I were a lad, programmers wanted strut their stuff to big softwares houses by writing demos. Now, it seems that people, these days,

Re: The continuing saga... (rapidly heading OT)

1999-06-09 Thread Robert Brady
On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Andrew Collier wrote: 6. As an exception to the Sections above, you may also combine or link a work that uses the Library with the Library to produce a work containing portions of the Library, and distribute that work under terms of your choice, provided that the terms

Re: The continuing saga...

1999-06-08 Thread Thomas Harte
Point 1: Oh no he hasn't. He has modified GPL source to produce the development version of SimCoupe Win32. But since he is not distributing a binary of SimCoupe Win32, he is under *no* obligation to release his modifications to the source. Actually I am told there is a binary in

Re: The continuing saga...

1999-06-08 Thread Andrew Collier
Point 1: Oh no he hasn't. He has modified GPL source to produce the development version of SimCoupe Win32. But since he is not distributing a binary of SimCoupe Win32, he is under *no* obligation to release his modifications to the source. Actually I am told there is a binary in

Re: The continuing saga...

1999-06-08 Thread James Gasson
Andrew Collier wrote: Unfortunately, the GPL does not clearly define its use of the term distribution. I would say that if Simon does not make the binary generally available, then there is no requirement to make the source generally available. Like I said, give him time. I'm sure that the

The continuing saga...

1999-06-07 Thread James R Curry
squabble squabble squabble Linux *squak* *squak* *squak* WIN32, squabble Simcoupe *squak* Linux, Linux GPL squablle, *squak* *squak*! -- James R Curry

Re: The continuing saga...

1999-06-07 Thread Thomas Harte
squabble squabble squabble Linux *squak* *squak* *squak* WIN32, squabble Simcoupe *squak* Linux, Linux GPL squablle, *squak* *squak*! Here is an interesting fact : Si has broken the distribution agreement with which he got the source for Sim Coupe. If you think that is an acceptable

Re: The continuing saga...

1999-06-07 Thread Andrew Collier
squabble squabble squabble Linux *squak* *squak* *squak* WIN32, squabble Simcoupe *squak* Linux, Linux GPL squablle, *squak* *squak*! Here is an interesting fact : Si has broken the distribution agreement with which he got the source for Sim Coupe. Point 1: Oh no he hasn't. He has

Re: The continuing saga...

1999-06-07 Thread James R Curry
The point I was making was, is that it seems every time we start some kind of common project in the SAM community, everyone starts fighting and pulling in different directions until key people simply give up hope... Just a familiar pattern, is all. -- James R Curry