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2003-12-26 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
l...@xs4all.nl said: > I recall that someone suggested that there should be something like a > "mid-end" (like saned) that does the correction. This would keep > front-ends simple and provide a moer uniform way to access features > like IR-correction. While a "filmsane" front end is of course

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2003-12-23 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
l...@xs4all.nl said: > I recall that someone suggested that there should be something like a > "mid-end" (like saned) that does the correction. This would keep > front-ends simple and provide a moer uniform way to access features > like IR-correction. = A front end for scanning negatives and

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2003-12-22 Thread Major A
> > Agreed. I think there should be a sanei_* library that allows the code > > to be used in frontends or meta-backends, whichever solution is > > best. (Just think of a network scanner that is accessed by a handheld > > device -- you don't want the IR cleaning to be done on the handheld.) > > I r

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2003-12-22 Thread Laurent-jan Dullaart
Sorry for the late reaction, but: On Monday 01 December 2003 15:29, Major A wrote: > > I think that IR cleaning is a front end task personally. For starters > > you can tweek the IR cleaning parameters after the image has been > > scanned if you are not happy with the default ones, without having

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2003-12-01 Thread Major A
> The alternative might be to try UV cleaning, though I suspect that the > idea of illuminating precious negatives with UV might not be welcome. I guess that's related to the fact that the UV light would be absorbed by the emulsion -- which means UV cleaning would probably not work very well. > S

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2003-12-01 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
Note: please don't cc or reply directly. and...@users.sourceforge.net said: > Agreed. I think there should be a sanei_* library that allows the code > to be used in frontends or meta-backends, whichever solution is best. > (Just think of a network scanner that is accessed by a handheld device > --

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2003-12-01 Thread Major A
> I think that IR cleaning is a front end task personally. For starters > you can tweek the IR cleaning parameters after the image has been > scanned if you are not happy with the default ones, without having > to scan the image again. Agreed. I think there should be a sanei_* library that allows

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2003-12-01 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
and...@users.sourceforge.net said: > That's good news. I'm quite sure it's a software-only solution, i.e. > one can apply it to the older Coolscans as well. Or they have switched to a longer IR wavelength in the scanners, which seems more probable to me. JAB. -- Jonathan A. Buzzard

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2003-12-01 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
and...@users.sourceforge.net said: > You can either do IR cleaning during scanning, in which case the user > can maybe set a few parameters and then gets a cleaned RGB image. This > approach would be possible with SANE1, provided the backend cleans the > image. Or you can scan the RGBI image, and t

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2003-12-01 Thread Nils Philippsen
Hubert Figuiere said: > On lun, 2003-12-01 at 09:42, Nils Philippsen wrote: > >> > > You mean e.g. not giving up on Kodak slides? I have many of this >> type, >> > > so I'll love to have it as well. >> > >> > I assume you mean Kodachrome? I think it's possible to do IR cleaning >> >> Yes. >> >> > o

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2003-12-01 Thread Major A
> The problem with Kodachrome is the same as it is with B&W negative film. > The sensitive emulsion contains a large amount of silver and this > materiel does produce something when scanning with IR, unlike it is done > with conventionnal C41 or E6 emulsions. Hmmm. Kodachrome emulsions don't conta

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2003-12-01 Thread Major A
> > This IR data is the raw data which contains quite a lot of red > > information as well, for most films. You need to extract the pure IR > > information, and that's probably best done by adding the cubic roots > > of the four channels with appropriate weighting factors and then raise > > the res

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2003-12-01 Thread Hubert Figuiere
On lun, 2003-12-01 at 09:42, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > > You mean e.g. not giving up on Kodak slides? I have many of this type, > > > so I'll love to have it as well. > > > > I assume you mean Kodachrome? I think it's possible to do IR cleaning > > Yes. > > > on Kodachrome, but it's a lot hard

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2003-12-01 Thread Nils Philippsen
--=-ZatCIFvW+Uy1uZiQ47rp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 2003-12-01 at 00:49, Major A wrote: > > > You've missed the first point: the IR information must be extracted > > > first. Since the IR channel is a non-linear combination of the de

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2003-11-30 Thread Major A
> > You've missed the first point: the IR information must be extracted > > first. Since the IR channel is a non-linear combination of the defect > > map with the R, G, B channels, this might get rather tricky. IBM has a > > patent on this as well. > > Hmm, can you elaborate? Can't the backend sim

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2003-11-30 Thread Nils Philippsen
--=-AJKdIpj8qu57IP2Irdlu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 2003-11-30 at 17:05, Major A wrote: > > since some days I've been thinking about implementing routines to > > utilize the infrared channel supplied by my Nikon LS-2000 scanner for >

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2003-11-30 Thread Nils Philippsen
--=-PQ/z2tOC6teXwW1w5GGe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, since some days I've been thinking about implementing routines to utilize the infrared channel supplied by my Nikon LS-2000 scanner for automatic defect correction. Is someone already

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2003-11-30 Thread Major A
> since some days I've been thinking about implementing routines to > utilize the infrared channel supplied by my Nikon LS-2000 scanner for > automatic defect correction. Is someone already working on this? There a few people who've tried things, myself included, but none of the efforts have produ