Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 05 May 2016 14:18:59 m. allan noah wrote: > Xsane has no networking code in it. Everything you have described so > far sounds like a problem in the brother4 backend. I suggest you try > the same test using scanimage at the command line, and if it is still > slow, compare to the windows

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-05 Thread m. allan noah
Xsane has no networking code in it. Everything you have described so far sounds like a problem in the brother4 backend. I suggest you try the same test using scanimage at the command line, and if it is still slow, compare to the windows driver. If you see a difference, ask Brother about brother4.

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 05 May 2016 10:31:53 Richard Ryniker wrote: > I doubt a gigabit Ethernet connection will make any significant > difference. After investigating the lcd panels network settings for a wired lan, and finding the best it can do is 100mbit-fd, that switch isn't going to do a lot of good.

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 05 May 2016 11:14:29 Richard Ryniker wrote: > "Timed wait" is the final stage when a TCP connection is closed. TCP > has the notion of "maximum segment lifetime" - how long a datagram > might remain somewhere in the network. Before a connection is > completely closed, it remains in t

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-05 Thread Richard Ryniker
I doubt a gigabit Ethernet connection will make any significant difference. Data rate from your scanner is dependent on the mechanical speed of the sensor and scan resolution. If you scan a page 8.5 by 11 inches at 600 pixels per inch resolution with 24 bits per pixel, there is about 100 megabyte

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-05 Thread Richard Ryniker
"Timed wait" is the final stage when a TCP connection is closed. TCP has the notion of "maximum segment lifetime" - how long a datagram might remain somewhere in the network. Before a connection is completely closed, it remains in the "timed wait" state for twice this maximum segment lifetime. T

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 05 May 2016 09:16:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Thursday 05 May 2016 05:41:39 Yury Tarasievich wrote: > > Never used ethernet accessible scanners, but a > > good practice on using sane from sources is to > > be sure you don't have the previous versions' > > 'leftovers' (configs, `rules.d

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 05 May 2016 05:41:39 Yury Tarasievich wrote: > Never used ethernet accessible scanners, but a > good practice on using sane from sources is to > be sure you don't have the previous versions' > 'leftovers' (configs, `rules.d` files, ...) in > your installation. > > I'd say your log hint

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-05 Thread Yury Tarasievich
Never used ethernet accessible scanners, but a good practice on using sane from sources is to be sure you don't have the previous versions' 'leftovers' (configs, `rules.d` files, ...) in your installation. I'd say your log hints at saned already being run on your system with some already exi

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 04 May 2016 19:44:32 Roger wrote: > >That long piece of Belden Cat5e managed to survive a 112 mph wind in > > 2010 that took down 3 40 yo pines, all our privacy fence, 50 square > > feet of shingles off the roof, a couple shingles off the shop > > building and flying debris damaged so

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-04 Thread Roger
>That long piece of Belden Cat5e managed to survive a 112 mph wind in 2010 >that took down 3 40 yo pines, all our privacy fence, 50 square feet of >shingles off the roof, a couple shingles off the shop building and flying >debris damaged some siding & guttering. And the cable still functions >righ

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 04 May 2016 07:27:01 m. allan noah wrote: > Gene- if your scanner has ethernet connectivity, you don't need to use > the net backend or saned. Those are basically adapters that allow you > to convert a non-networked scanner into a networked one, by using a > saned server as an interme

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-04 Thread m. allan noah
Gene- if your scanner has ethernet connectivity, you don't need to use the net backend or saned. Those are basically adapters that allow you to convert a non-networked scanner into a networked one, by using a saned server as an intermediary. I think you need to see if the brother docs list any deb

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 04 May 2016 01:43:59 Roger wrote: > > On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 11:58:56PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >That wasn't any help, but since the vendor/product was found when I > >plugged in a USB cable, running xsane then found it at the usb bus > > and address, and I ran a few scans. See

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-03 Thread Roger
> On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 11:58:56PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >That wasn't any help, but since the vendor/product was found when I >plugged in a USB cable, running xsane then found it at the usb bus and >address, and I ran a few scans. Seems to work about as expected and I >believe at a bette

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 03 May 2016 20:52:35 m. allan noah wrote: > Well, that implies that we are handing control to the brother4 > backend, but it is not finding any scanners. Perhaps try the same as > root? > > allan That wasn't any help, but since the vendor/product was found when I plugged in a USB cabl

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-03 Thread Roger
> On Tue, May 03, 2016 at 05:18:15PM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: >This system has only USB2.0, so a 100mbit ethernet is still faster. If I'm not mistaken; USB 1 has a 1.4 megabit transfer rate, USB 2 has a 480 megabit transfer rate, and USB 3 has a 5 gigabit transfer rate. (Try not to confuse meg

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-03 Thread m. allan noah
Well, that implies that we are handing control to the brother4 backend, but it is not finding any scanners. Perhaps try the same as root? allan On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 8:06 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 03 May 2016 17:54:54 m. allan noah wrote: > >> SANE_DEBUG_DLL=255 scanimage -L > > And

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 03 May 2016 17:54:54 m. allan noah wrote: > SANE_DEBUG_DLL=255 scanimage -L And that query returns this enlightening report: [dll] load: searching backend `brother4' in `/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/sane:/usr/lib/sane' [dll] load: trying to load `/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/sane/libsane-brot

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-03 Thread m. allan noah
We cannot really help you on the brother stuff, since it is closed source, and not produced by us. But, we can suggest that you try the following: comment out every line of dll.conf except for the the brother lines you need, and one other random backend (maybe, fujitsu). Then run: SANE_DEBUG_DLL=

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 03 May 2016 16:45:58 Roger wrote: > ON-TOPIC REPLY: You may require two separate drivers, one for the USB > connection and another driver for the network connected device. And > separate drivers for the printer & scanner functions. Albeit, they > are sometimes bundled together by manu

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-03 Thread Roger
ON-TOPIC REPLY: You may require two separate drivers, one for the USB connection and another driver for the network connected device. And separate drivers for the printer & scanner functions. Albeit, they are sometimes bundled together by manufacturer. (ie. HP's HPLIP package) OFF-TOPIC REP

Re: [sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 03 May 2016 10:07:49 Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I just bought a Brother MFC-J6920DW, and installed the brother linux > .deb drivers that are "supposed" to let xsane run the scanner. But > xsane makes no attempt to access it even if I plug in a USB cable. It > did install

[sane-devel] Need sane docs

2016-05-03 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I just bought a Brother MFC-J6920DW, and installed the brother linux .deb drivers that are "supposed" to let xsane run the scanner. But xsane makes no attempt to access it even if I plug in a USB cable. It did install the name "brother4" in /etc/sane.d/dll.conf, but I can't fin