[SC-L] Python, Ruby, Perl & PHP

2004-04-23 Thread Fabien
Hello, I'm on the list since more or less one month and I have seen a lot of discussion about the "safety" of a language. And since I use language like Python or PHP, I would like to have your opinion about such language. Thanks. PS: Sorry for my English, it's not my mother tongue. -- Derrièr

Re: [SC-L] Anyone looked at security features of D programming la nguage compared to Spark?

2004-04-23 Thread Jim & Mary Ronback
Jeremy Epstein wrote: Jim & Mary Ronback opined: I am hard put to find an example of a language feature which makes a system more secure but less safe or vice versa, in any context. Can anyone else think of one? Not 100%, but consider automatic garbage collection. Tends to make a system

RE: [SC-L] Anyone looked at security features of D programming language compared to Spark?

2004-04-23 Thread ljknews
At 7:31 AM -0700 4/23/04, Jeremy Epstein wrote: >Jim & Mary Ronback opined: >> I am hard put to find an example of a language feature which makes a >> system more secure but less safe or vice versa, in any context. Can >> anyone else think of one? > >Not 100%, but consider automatic garbage colle

RE: [SC-L] Anyone looked at security features of D programming language compared to Spark?

2004-04-23 Thread Jeremy Epstein
Jim & Mary Ronback opined: > I am hard put to find an example of a language feature which makes a > system more secure but less safe or vice versa, in any context. Can > anyone else think of one? Not 100%, but consider automatic garbage collection. Tends to make a system more secure, because it

RE: [SC-L] Missing the point?

2004-04-23 Thread Michael S Hines
But don't the tools help the developer produce better quality code through defect detection? Mike Hines --- Michael S Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael A. Davis Sent: Tuesday, A

Re: [SC-L] Anyone looked at security features of D programming language?

2004-04-23 Thread Crispin Cowan
Greenarrow 1 wrote: There is a comparison chart of different functions of D vs other languages at this site: http://www.digitalmars.com/d/comparison.html This "comparison" appears to be an advocacy piece by the D developers, and thus may be biased. The comparison leaves out three conspicuous f

RE: [SC-L] Anyone looked at security features of D programming language compared to Spark?

2004-04-23 Thread Peter Amey
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of Jim & Mary Ronback > Sent: 22 April 2004 19:57 > To: Greenarrow 1 > Cc: Kenneth R. van Wyk; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; James Walden; > Rod Chapman > Subject: [SC-L] Anyone looked at security features of D progr

Re: [SC-L] Anyone looked at security features of D programming language compared to Spark?

2004-04-23 Thread der Mouse
>> Safety critical sofware has a lot of overlap with the requirements >> for high security software. > Can anyone think of any _differences_ between those domain (process > and code-wise, not regulatory-wise). Process-wise, probably not. In each case, you need to start by figuring out what your t

Re: [SC-L] Anyone looked at security features of D programming language compared to Spark?

2004-04-23 Thread Jim & Mary Ronback
I am hard put to find an example of a language feature which makes a system more secure but less safe or vice versa, in any context. Can anyone else think of one? Someone said -" There are two ways to design software: make it so simple there are obviously no defects or, make it so complex there