[SC-L] Fwd: SCARE metrics and tool release

2007-11-30 Thread Kenneth Van Wyk
Reposted with permission, FYI... Cheers, Ken SC-L Moderator Begin forwarded message: From: Pete Herzog [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: November 30, 2007 10:30:18 AM EST To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SCARE metrics and tool release Hi, Scare, the Source Code Analysis Risk Evaluation tool for

Re: [SC-L] Insecure Software Costs US $180B per Year - Application and Perimeter Security News Analysis - Dark Reading

2007-11-30 Thread Shea, Brian A
IMO the path to changing the dynamics for secure coding will reside in the market, the courts, and the capacity of the software industry to measure and test itself and to demonstrate the desired properties of security, quality, and suitability for purpose. In today's market we do well in

Re: [SC-L] Insecure Software Costs US $180B per Year - Application and Perimeter Security News Analysis - Dark Reading

2007-11-30 Thread der Mouse
Just as a traditional manufacturer would pay less tax by becoming greener, the software manufacturer would pay less tax for producing cleaner code, [...] And all of this completely ignores the $0 software market. Who gets hit with tax when a bug is found in, say, the Linux

Re: [SC-L] Insecure Software Costs US $180B per Year - Application and Perimeter Security News Analysis - Dark Reading

2007-11-30 Thread Kenneth Van Wyk
On Nov 29, 2007, at 6:35 PM, Leichter, Jerry wrote: So he's not completely naive, though the history of security metrics and standards - which tend to produce code that satisfies the standards without being any more secure - should certainly give on pause. One could, I suppose, give rebates

Re: [SC-L] Insecure Software Costs US $180B per Year - Application and Perimeter Security News Analysis - Dark Reading

2007-11-30 Thread Steven M. Christey
On Fri, 30 Nov 2007, Shea, Brian A wrote: Software vendors will need a 3 tier approach to software security: Dev training and certification, internal source testing, external independent audit and rating. I don't think I've seen enough emphasis on this latter item. A sufficiently vibrant

Re: [SC-L] Insecure Software Costs US $180B per Year - Application and Perimeter Security News Analysis - Dark Reading

2007-11-30 Thread Leichter, Jerry
| Just as a traditional manufacturer would pay less tax by | becoming greener, the software manufacturer would pay less tax | for producing cleaner code, [...] | | One could, I suppose, give rebates based on actual field experience: | Look at the number of security problems