Re: [SC-L] [External] Re: SearchSecurity: Medical Devices and Software Security

2014-07-07 Thread Goertzel, Karen [USA]
Another big frustration: No-one seems to be making any real headway into the problem of actually measuring loss attributable to doing nothing - or, in other words, losses cradle to grave from operating insufficiently secure systems. People try to measure "ROI" from security, which is a ridiculou

Re: [SC-L] [External] Re: SearchSecurity: Medical Devices and Software Security

2014-07-07 Thread Jeffrey Walton
> Ever since I read an article about the challenges of remote laser surgery > being done by doctors at the Naval Hospital in Bethesda, MD, via satellite > link on wounded soldiers in Iraq, I've been warning for years about the need > to apply software assurance principles to the development and

Re: [SC-L] SearchSecurity: Medical Devices and Software Security

2014-07-07 Thread Jeremy Epstein
Agree with you - there's nothing new in the article. I gave a talk a couple years ago at a conference on biomedical engineering, and there was one person in the room (out of a few hundred) who had heard of Therac-25. (Which I assume is what you were referring to with 1985.) If the article were in

Re: [SC-L] [External] Re: SearchSecurity: Medical Devices and Software Security

2014-07-07 Thread Goertzel, Karen [USA]
Ever since I read an article about the challenges of remote laser surgery being done by doctors at the Naval Hospital in Bethesda, MD, via satellite link on wounded soldiers in Iraq, I've been warning for years about the need to apply software assurance principles to the development and testing

Re: [SC-L] SearchSecurity: Medical Devices and Software Security

2014-07-07 Thread security curmudgeon
On Mon, 30 Jun 2014, Gary McGraw wrote: : Chandu Ketkar and I wrote an article about medical device security based : on a talk Chandu gave at Kevin Fu?s Archimedes conference in Ann Arbor. : In the article, we discuss six categories of security defects that : Cigital discovers again and again