Re: Rocky Linux

2020-12-09 Thread Maarten
I will probably be more like to go for Springdale Linux since they've been around since before CentOS, I find it hard to put trust in a project that's just getting started unless of course CERN changes their decision about discontinuing Scientific Linux since they were migrating to CentOS.

Re: Rocky Linux

2020-12-09 Thread ~Stack~
On 12/9/20 9:16 PM, Yasha Karant wrote: One thing does concern me:  having left CentOS (it was all "volunteer" effort at that epoch as I recall) for SL, a primary motivator was that SL had professional (employed, not volunteer) persons doing the distros, and this SL list amounting to support.

Rocky Linux

2020-12-09 Thread ~Stack~
Greetings, Greg Kurtzer (the guy who started Caos which became CentOS, and he is also the guy who started Warewulf and Singularity), has announced Rocky Linux.

Re: Dose any of this surprize you.

2020-12-09 Thread Yasha Karant
A note: On 12/9/20 11:05 AM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 10:25:36AM -0500, Larry Linder wrote: Everytime I am forced to use Windows 10 my neurons rebel at the moron aware SW. I am sorry you are in the position where you are forced to use Windows, I feel lucky that I

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-09 Thread Yasha Karant
If my recollection of the history is correct, CentOS and Princeton EL were separate from SL. CentOS originally was a "volunteer" effort building from RHEL source, with RH personnel monitoring the CentOS "lists" because CentOS had a wider range of an installed base on enthusiast and home user

Re: Dose any of this surprize you.

2020-12-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 10:25:36AM -0500, Larry Linder wrote: > > Everytime I am forced to use Windows 10 my neurons rebel at the moron > aware SW. > I am sorry you are in the position where you are forced to use Windows, I feel lucky that I can "just say no!". > > As the supporters of GNU

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
> > Very curious how CERN and Fermilab will respond to this. > I guess that CERN was caught red-handed as well. (wrong metaphor? you wanted "with pants down" or "off guard" or something like that? there is no evidence that CERN was "in" on this change, yes?) > They have already started to port

Re: Dose any of this surprize you.

2020-12-09 Thread Yasha Karant
If your employer is a for-profit entity, then the neo-liberal profiteer model indicates your firm should be funding ("paying for") what it uses, except for the neo-liberal reality of "welfare for the wealthy". As your employer is using SL, supported from public funds in different nations

Dose any of this surprize you.

2020-12-09 Thread Larry Linder
In the early days of Windows 3.0 and OS/2. Windows 3.0 was short lived because every user knew it was a dog. OS/2 was pretty nice but had a fatel flaw as it only had one exit que. i a program dies and not gracefully it was rebo0t time. This is trivia trash but reflects on the Corporate Character

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-09 Thread Götz Waschk
Am 09.12.20 um 01:39 schrieb Patrick J. LoPresti: > Very curious how CERN and Fermilab will respond to this. I guess that CERN was caught red-handed as well. They have already started to port their internal systems to CentOS8 according to the recent site report at HEPiX:

Has ScientificLinux status changed?

2020-12-09 Thread Maarten
Hello All, Last year it was announced that ScientificLinux would be discontinued because of CERN switching to CentOS and that they would contribute to the CentOS project instead of continuing with ScientificLinux. Yesterday it was announced that CentOS8 will be supported until the end of 2021