Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-10 Thread Brett Viren
Just a couple thoughts on framing this "development": Yasha Karant writes: > Translation -- as a for-profit vendor, IBM does not want to subsidize > a competitor to RHEL that is without fee. I see this move in even worse light. Previously there was mutual benefit and trust between RH and

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-10 Thread Maarten
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.redhat.com_en_blog_faq-2Dcentos-2Dstream-2Dupdates-23Q12=DwIDaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=FCHZnyuFoWqTM3SyDoXaKAG6aBmlut12Lj80X4nfBUw=4PW9qOS5ATcKxRe0dvVI9Qdzq7vivIRywZU0jKR8298=

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-09 Thread Yasha Karant
If my recollection of the history is correct, CentOS and Princeton EL were separate from SL. CentOS originally was a "volunteer" effort building from RHEL source, with RH personnel monitoring the CentOS "lists" because CentOS had a wider range of an installed base on enthusiast and home user

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
> > Very curious how CERN and Fermilab will respond to this. > I guess that CERN was caught red-handed as well. (wrong metaphor? you wanted "with pants down" or "off guard" or something like that? there is no evidence that CERN was "in" on this change, yes?) > They have already started to port

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-09 Thread Götz Waschk
Am 09.12.20 um 01:39 schrieb Patrick J. LoPresti: > Very curious how CERN and Fermilab will respond to this. I guess that CERN was caught red-handed as well. They have already started to port their internal systems to CentOS8 according to the recent site report at HEPiX:

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-08 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
With my conspiracy-theory hat on, I suspect the timing of this announcement, a week after the demise of the much-loved RHEL6. -- Andrew C. Aitchison Kendal, UK and...@aitchison.me.uk

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-08 Thread Yasha Karant
I agree with your sentiments, based upon several informal discussions I have had with CentOS 8 "adopters". "Supported" RHEL 8 seems to be better -- but are there still issues with EPEL, etc., because of inappropriate sub-system designations (as with the python example you provide)? From what

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-08 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Tue, Dec 08, 2020 at 04:39:32PM -0800, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: > > It has been almost exactly seven years since Red Hat bought CentOS > The way I remember it, RedHat approached CentOS lead developers and made them an offer they could not refuse. > > Very curious how CERN and Fermilab will

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-08 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
It has been almost exactly seven years since Red Hat bought CentOS (

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-08 Thread d tbsky
is there any possibility for scientific linux 8? we are testing centos 8 for several monthes, but scientific linux is much better.

Re: CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-08 Thread Yasha Karant
For those who want to be nauseated, here is the essential quote of the post: The future of the CentOS Project is CentOS Stream, and over the next year we’ll be shifting focus from CentOS Linux, the rebuild of Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL), to CentOS Stream, which tracks just ahead of a

CentOS 8 EOL; CentOS Stream?

2020-12-08 Thread ~Stack~
Anyone else on the verge of tears after reading today's CentOS blog post?