In the For What It's Worth department:
AlmaLinux stable release is now available. I've used the
almalinux-deploy shell script (see
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_AlmaLinux_almalinux-2Ddeploy&d=DwIFAw&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyC
On 4/3/21 11:39 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
In the For What It's Worth department:
Also in the FWIW department, I put direct links in my message; the URL
Proof Point links are how the list software here changes the typed links
for safety, but makes them nearly unreadable.
Direct link to Almalinu
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Subject: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.
In the For What It's Worth department:
AlmaLinux stable release is now available. I've used the
almalinux-deploy shell script (see
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_AlmaLinux_almalinux-2Ddeploy&
day, April 3, 2021 10:39 AM
*To:* scientific-linux-users
*Subject:* FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.
In the For What It's Worth department:
AlmaLinux stable release is now available. I've used the
almalinux-deploy shell script (see
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:39:17AM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote:
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> AlmaLinux stable release is now available.
>
Question is: but for how long? until red hat pulls a centos on them?
P.S.
My message is "FU!D". Fear, check! Uncertainty, check! Deception? Nope, happened
before, will happen again. cease
On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 5:52 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
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> On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:39:17AM -0400, Lamar Owen wrote:
> >
> > AlmaLinux stable release is now available.
> >
>
> Question is: but for how long? until red hat pulls a centos on them?
>
> P.S.
>
> My message is "FU!D". Fear, check!
I have not downloaded (and thus not installed) AL8. From below:
with
> unfortunate issues precisely replicing [replicating?] those of RHEL
installation
> media, such as an absurd number of confusingly distinct software
> channels, and no default mirror list on the network bootable media.
>
My
Would you be willing to post or provide a URL in which you cover in a
bit more detail your experience with the actual installation and any
issues that arose during the installation (including disk layout, file
systems used, etc)?
On 4/3/21 7:18 PM, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
On 4/3/21 4:43 PM, Yash
On 4/3/21 4:43 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
I have not downloaded (and thus not installed) AL8. From below:
with
> unfortunate issues precisely replicing [replicating?] those of RHEL
installation
> media, such as an absurd number of confusingly distinct software
> channels, and no default mirror li
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From: Yasha Karant
Date: Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.
To: scientific-linux-users
I have not downloaded (and thus not installed) AL8. From below:
> My recollection of a fresh install of SL (it has been a num
A URL, no. I'm happy to answer any questions on the experience. It's Centos 8 and as I said, I've been avoiding systemd based systems like the plague... And it is a plague in my
opinion.
I did find a package that "auto-installed" for the server install called
performance co-pilot that DEFINITE
Greetings,
On 4/3/21 10:39 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
In the For What It's Worth department:
AlmaLinux stable release is now available. I've used the
almalinux-deploy shell script [snip links]
I'm planning to do the same thing with RockyLinux on another couple of
CentOS 8 VMs, and I'm planning
When they first release the beta version, I run into some issue when anaconda.
Post that on to reddit and got a reply in a day or two.
I also noticed some issue with the migration script, posted bug report on
GitHub and they resolve it in the next release.
It seems they respond faster to bug tra
On 4/3/21 2:57 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
Is IBM RH required under the GPL and Linux licenses to release without
charge the fully buildable source code for whatever Linux derivatives
IBM RH provides under binary executable installable license for fee?
The only source that has to be released at all
On 4/3/21 2:34 PM, Teh, Kenneth M. wrote:
Thank you for the info. Almalinux is a candidate for me. Please
continue to post your impressions, pros and cons. Thank you.
Sure, Ken, glad to help.
The major caveat is that I'm not evaluating any CentOS 8 replacement for
new installs as yet, only
On 4/4/21 8:39 PM, ~Stack~ wrote:
...
Am I alone? Has anyone else tried reaching out to Alma and gotten
responses to problems/issues/bugs?
I haven't needed any support yet, so I can't comment on that,
insufficient data.
On that front alone, I'm loving the Rocky community. It is a proper
Thank you for your impressions and (partial) clarification on the
license source availability requirement situation.
Given that:
AL, Rocky, and all other IBM RHEL clones depend upon IBM RH to release
buildable source (that is source code and the tools required to build
that source to an exec
On 4/5/21 12:28 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
...
If IBM decides to enforce IP control over what does not have to be
released under the GPL, BSD, Linux, etc., licenses, one would not have
a buildable "clone". Am I correct?
I think that's pretty much what I've been saying for a while.
...If Canonic
There is one ray of hope in this.
AlmaLinux said it was going to support VMware.
A crude way to do things but I need to support a lot of old SW from the
last 22 years and older.
My scheme has been to load necessary OS's under VMWare. Since disk
space is cheep. I can and have loaded older OS's and
I support an enduser who had Mint installed by a friend. Installing
Ubuntu LTS current "over" Mint and then the full MATE suite fully
addressed the specific Mint issues you mentioned below. At one time I
had installed SL on that enduser's machine -- however, SL could not
support some of the th
Hi All,
I'm Jack a member of AlmaLinux's dev team and our community manager. Thanks
Lamar for mentioning the release here.
I wanted to reply because I am sure many here have lots of questions and please
feel free to ask any that you may have, I'll try my best to answer. We share
the same DNA
Hi Jack,
Thanks very much for the update.
Is AlmaLinux (AL) therefore going to be supported at as well as SL was
(is, until SL is EOL, currently on end of releases) with paid
professional staff for whom this is a responsibility in addition to
being something of real (not just gainful employme
On 2021/04/04 11:58, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote:
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From: Yasha Karant
Date: Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.
To: scientific-linux-users
I have not downloaded (and thus not installed) AL8. From below:
My recollection
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 5:23 AM Takashi Ichihara
wrote:
> >> My recollection of a fresh install of SL (it has been a number of years,
> > and thus memory may be defective) is that SL provided a set of mirrors.
> > Is one to assume that AL8 has no such mirrors or that AL8 network
> > bootable medi
Perhaps someone can refresh my memory: under old EL, was the mirror
list statically built into the install package, dynamically loaded if an
Internet connection is available, or a mix of these two? I do not
recall having to type long strings such as mirror URLs into the "old"
installs.
For
Why netinstall? Get the ISO, use it from a USB stick. The ISO will avoid
excessive additional downloads
if installing more hosts with virtualbox or vmware
My 5 Cents
Rainer
--
On 4/12/
That is precisely what I did -- install from media -- but during the
install (if memory serves -- this may have been another distro that I
had to install on an enduser machine), the option to update was given
(as the bootable ISO install image was not "current" with the latest
security updates,
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 11:40 AM Yasha Karant wrote:
>
> Perhaps someone can refresh my memory: under old EL, was the mirror
> list statically built into the install package, dynamically loaded if an
> Internet connection is available, or a mix of these two? I do not
> recall having to type long
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 3:12 PM RL wrote:
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> Why netinstall? Get the ISO, use it from a USB stick. The ISO will avoid
> excessive additional downloads
The bandwidth and disk space for a 5 GB or so DVD image used to be
much more significant. Doing VM's on a laptop can wind up choosing
between
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, Yasha Karant wrote:
The major issue I find is that everything at the system level is sudo
-- however, for Ubuntu, I have found the fixes so that I can become root and
do what I need both from a text interface and a GUI interface.
I find sudo on Ubuntu much easier to use t
On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 3:12 AM Andrew C Aitchison
wrote:
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> On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, Yasha Karant wrote:
>
> > The major issue I find is that everything at the system level is sudo
> > -- however, for Ubuntu, I have found the fixes so that I can become root and
> > do what I need both from a text int
On 2021-04-07 2:11 a.m., Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, Yasha Karant wrote:
The major issue I find is that everything at the system level is sudo
-- however, for Ubuntu, I have found the fixes so that I can become
root and do what I need both from a text interface and a GUI int
serv.fnal.gov
on behalf of Gilbert E.
Detillieux
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Cc: scientific-linux-users
Subject: Re: sudo - was Re: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.
On 2021-04-07 2:11 a.m., Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, Yasha Karant wrote:
:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 9:19 AM
*To:* Andrew C Aitchison
*Cc:* scientific-linux-users
*Subject:* Re: sudo - was Re: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.
On 2021-04-07 2:11 a.m., Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
On Tue, 6 Apr 2021, Yasha Karant wrote:
The major issue I find is that everything at the sy
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*Sent:* Wednesday, April 7, 2021 9:19 AM
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*Cc:* scientific-linux-users
*Subject:* Re: sudo - was Re: FWIW: AlmaLinux now available.
On 2021-0
> On 2021-04-07 9:28 a.m., Teh, Kenneth M. wrote:
>> If you need to run a lot of commands as root, the easiest sudo method
>> is simply 'sudo su -' which makes you into root. The trailing '-'
>> does a login which replaces your environment with root's.
On 4/7/21 9:37 AM, Gilbert E. Detillieux w
Probably not applicable to many installations, but when I was the sole admin for
a couple of compute clusters, raid systems, and numerous backend servers,
*everything* I did required root privs, so I just set them all up so when I
ssh'd in, I was root. Didn't have time to mess with the extra su
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