Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits

2016-09-08 Thread Paul Robert Marino
This thread raises some interesting point but I've seen a few misconceptions in it too first let me clear up the misconceptions. 1) busy box is meant to make the footprint on an appliance or live "CD" type distro smaller it is not for security. Rootkits that replace busy box have been seen in the

Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits

2016-09-08 Thread Vladimir Mosgalin
Hi Steven J. Yellin! On 2016.09.07 at 19:03:32 -0700, Steven J. Yellin wrote next: > Are rpm and the check sum tools statically linked? If not, hiding > copies of them might not help if libraries have been compromised. But > busybox is statically linked, and it looks like it can be easily

Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits

2016-09-08 Thread Vladimir Mosgalin
Hi jdow! On 2016.09.07 at 19:18:32 -0700, jdow wrote next: > Is the part of the filesystem which handles links in kernel space or user > space? That would make a great deal of difference as this rootkit tool In kernel (except for soft links, for them it's partially in user space, kind of,

Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits

2016-09-07 Thread jdow
et, even Red Hat products like RHEV use that method on appliances. Original Message From: jdow Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 19:09 To: scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov Subject: Re: Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits Thanks Vladimir, I suppose I could pull the necessary files from

Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits

2016-09-07 Thread Steven J. Yellin
, September 7, 2016 19:09 To: scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov Subject: Re: Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits Thanks Vladimir, I suppose I could pull the necessary files from busybox as a means of keeping a more generic Linux system in security trim. This might be a useful tool set to suggest

Re: Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits

2016-09-07 Thread jdow
Wednesday, September 7, 2016 19:09 To: scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov Subject: Re: Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits Thanks Vladimir, I suppose I could pull the necessary files from busybox as a means of keeping a more generic Linux system in security trim. This might be a useful tool set

Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits

2016-09-07 Thread prmarino1
Message   From: jdow Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 19:09 To: scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov Subject: Re: Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits Thanks Vladimir, I suppose I could pull the necessary files from busybox as a means of keeping a more generic Linux system in security trim

Re: Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits

2016-09-07 Thread jdow
Thanks Vladimir, I suppose I could pull the necessary files from busybox as a means of keeping a more generic Linux system in security trim. This might be a useful tool set to suggest upstream. A statically linked less would allow a quick check for the hidden user. A statically linked

Re: Regarding latest Linux level 3 rootkits

2016-09-07 Thread Vladimir Mosgalin
Hi jdow! On 2016.09.06 at 23:15:04 -0700, jdow wrote next: > Is there any source for a VI, VIM, or even EMACS that has all libraries > compiled into it statically? That would make monitoring for the rootkit much > easier. The same could be said for utilities such as chkrootkit. With > compiled