Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Maarten
I already converted over my personal systems over to Springdale Linux without having to reinstall because it saved me from having to reinstall Debian from scratch on all of my systems. On 12/14/20 12:37 PM, Tapia, Ron wrote: Hi, Is anyone considering Springdale Linux (https://urldefense.proo

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Yasha Karant
Springdale EL (Princeton in my terminology, just as SL is Fermilab/CERN) shows the following: Download DVD i386x86_64 8.3 TBA TBA That is, there is no repo with an installable EL 8 ISO image. As for repos, Springdale shows: If you are only looking to install some rpms, you can

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Maarten
Spring is a binary clone of RHEL and the sources are not based off CentOS. Quoting someone from the  Springdale mailinglist:  "Springdale Linux formerly known as PUIAS (Princeton University Institute for Advanced Studies) is older than CentOS and it compiles it's own binaries from the upstream

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Yasha Karant
Thank you for quoting from the Princeton material. I had read the Princeton commentary a while ago when internally we were debating SL vs. Princeton, and went with SL because Fermilab/CERN combined have better resources than Princeton alone. The one thing I did note and have mentioned on this

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Teh, Kenneth M.
Software collections has gcc-9. If memory serves, SL7 has gcc-4.8. From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov on behalf of Yasha Karant Sent: Monday, December 14, 2020 2:44 PM To: scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov Subject: Re: Springdale Linux Thank

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
> > > and ... CentOS RPMs are not 100% safe ... > This is a very unexpected statement. I feel it should not be passed unquestioned. Is there any meat there or it's just a general statement on the security of the CentOS build process vs the security of the Red Hat build process vs the security of

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Yasha Karant
. *From:* owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov on behalf of Yasha Karant *Sent:* Monday, December 14, 2020 2:44 PM *To:* scientific-linux-users@fnal.gov *Subject:* Re: Springdale Linux Thank you for quoting from the Princeton material.  I had read the Princeton commentary a while

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Ching Him Leung
Is there a way to see the Springdale mailing list archive? Ching Him

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Yasha Karant
As I recall, what you state below is similar in sentiment to response/s when I noted the "same" comment concerning Princeton EL in the past. I take it from your response no one in the larger EL community (including HPC/HTC) shares the Princeton "sentiment" and that there is no "basis in data/f

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Maarten
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__springdale.math.ias.edu_wiki_disclaimer&d=DwIDaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=TKmDwHk4LwNB8HNm9GxxajVITvc216grjypu8En4mdU&s=uUu-gODJfybAXFqRmgXY4raUbPDlRs1FwEOl4N70nRg&e= "This sof

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 01:27:31PM -0800, Yasha Karant wrote: > >> > >>>and ... CentOS RPMs are not 100% safe ... > > > >This is a very unexpected statement. I feel it should not be passed > >unquestioned. > > To followup on myself. Need a definition of "unsafe". Must make a distinction between "

Re: Springdale Linux

2020-12-14 Thread Jon Pruente
On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 3:46 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > To followup on myself. Need a definition of "unsafe". Must make > a distinction between "centos is unsafe" vs "redhat is unsafe" vs > "linux is unsafe" vs "any use of computer is unsafe". > > ("safe as certified by recognized authority