Re: User proc uses all RAM+swap = kernel panic - shouldn't OS not allow?

2012-09-14 Thread Chris Schanzle
On 09/14/2012 03:58 AM, Winnie Lacesso wrote: Server has 16GB RAM 20GB swap; problem is, it's a compute server used by many. So one user (later mortified remorseful, but) causes grief for many. And a forced reset is always a concern re: possible filesystem corruption. Thank you all very much

Re: User proc uses all RAM+swap = kernel panic - shouldn't OS not allow?

2012-09-14 Thread Stephan Wiesand
On Sep 13, 2012, at 18:59 , Chris Schanzle wrote: In our experience, if memory is allocated and never touched, it's like you never allocated it at all (with respect to swap). Allocated but untouched pages will not be swapped. Right, but they do count as committed. Thus, once

User proc uses all RAM+swap = kernel panic - shouldn't OS not allow?

2012-09-13 Thread Winnie Lacesso
Greetings, Several times over past few years I've seen user processes go mad (programming error) use all RAM, then all swap (as ganglia so vividly shows), then the box ends up at a kernel panic. (Server OS is SL5.x 64-bit BTW) What's puzzling is, shouldn't the OS by default not allow users to

Re: User proc uses all RAM+swap = kernel panic - shouldn't OS not allow?

2012-09-13 Thread Stephan Wiesand
Hello Winnie, On Sep 13, 2012, at 16:01 , Winnie Lacesso wrote: Several times over past few years I've seen user processes go mad (programming error) use all RAM, then all swap (as ganglia so vividly shows), then the box ends up at a kernel panic. (Server OS is SL5.x 64-bit BTW) we

Re: User proc uses all RAM+swap = kernel panic - shouldn't OS not allow?

2012-09-13 Thread Chris Schanzle
On 09/13/2012 10:32 AM, Stephan Wiesand wrote: Hello Winnie, On Sep 13, 2012, at 16:01 , Winnie Lacesso wrote: Several times over past few years I've seen user processes go mad (programming error) use all RAM, then all swap (as ganglia so vividly shows), then the box ends up at a kernel

Re: User proc uses all RAM+swap = kernel panic - shouldn't OS not allow?

2012-09-13 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 04:32:00PM +0200, Stephan Wiesand wrote: Hello Winnie, On Sep 13, 2012, at 16:01 , Winnie Lacesso wrote: Several times over past few years I've seen user processes go mad (programming error) use all RAM, then all swap (as ganglia so vividly shows), then the