[scifinoir2] China clinic gives 'web addicts' shock treatment

China clinic gives 'web addicts' shock treatment 12/21/2007 @ 11:17 am Filed by David Edwards and Muriel Kane http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Shock_therapy_treats_internet_addiction_in_1221.html Increasing affluence in China, combined with intense pressure on young people to succeed, has led to the

[scifinoir2] NT Times - Hoover Planned Mass Jailing in 1950

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/23/washington/23habeas.html?_r=1&oref=slogin A newly declassified document shows that J. Edgar Hoover, the longtime director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, had a plan to suspend habeas corpus and imprison some 12,000 Americans he suspected of disloyalty.

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

Well you are in good company. Filmmakers, critics, authors and more see them in a similar light. Most think Cuaron specifically does have "it" I think he's won awards for his work.I agree that it is fine that people have different perspectives, but this is one time were I can not even re

Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film

me too, and no evidence of sentience in Galactus, and that "battle" between him and the Surfer--gawd that movie sucked! I'm still most pissed at the Surfer's source of power being changed--gawd that movie sucked! There's a better Reed Richards to be depicted. I really like Ian as Reed, but they

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

we just disagree on this, which is cool. i seem to like Del Toro, Cuaron, and their work more than you do. i think Hellboy is way more than simple CGI... -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/22/2007 11:16:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EM

Re: [scifinoir2] [Fwd: RE: Alien astronomers could discern Earth's features]

As long as I get advance warning before they begin using mass drivers, it's all good... Seriously, this doesn't shock me in the least. Any civilization out there observing us would almost have to be scoping out the basic lay of the land. Good, scientific common sense. "Tracey de Morsella (form

Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film

I agree about the choice of Alba as Sue Richards too...plus I was major pissed that they turned Galactus into a frickin' cloud monster!!! [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: although many applaud or at least tolerate the FF movies because they have a sense of fun, i've found them to be trash. Alba can't

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

In a message dated 12/22/2007 1:59:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: You nailed it Keith. Hellboy is freakin fantastic. One of the best Comic to film adaptations ever. The Hobbit is not a comic book. It is "classic." You have to approach it differently. **

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

In a message dated 12/22/2007 11:16:13 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The Frighteners, I never would have pegged Jackson to be right for LOTR, but New Line saw something in him... True but Jackson has talent. Hellboy is typically CGI. Nothing to write home about. ***

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

In a message dated 12/22/2007 11:00:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: they're good examples of story, acting, plotting, action, FX, CGI, and that all-important, all-evasise "look" of a film. They may be okay directors but they don't have the it factor. I don't expect Sco

Re: [scifinoir2] The Hobbit Director Discussion: Whedonesque

Whedon is an interesting option. Who knows what he would do with it. Good or bad, it would not be a boring vision Bosco Bosco wrote: > I spent the first part of my morning at work catching up on the most > recent threads. I am the boss. I can do whatever I want!! On > Saturdays I slack when the

[scifinoir2] [Fwd: RE: Alien astronomers could discern Earth's features]

Original Message Subject:RE: Alien astronomers could discern Earth's features Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2007 11:08:34 -0800 From: Chris de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Tracey de Morsella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'julia demorsella' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul de Morsella <[EM

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

Great assessment of Raimi. Daryle wrote: > And here is where the fandom line is sort of drawn. I have said this before, > and I will say it again. I saw LOTR in a theater and I have never had such a > good sleep outside of my own bed. I tried again with the second picture, and > again, fell aslee

Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film

Dwayne is the man!!! are they bringing him in for the next Silver Surfer? Daryle wrote: > I thought Peter's dance was a highlight of the picture. That is to say, the > whole picture was bad. I don't think anyone will be able to do a better > picture than Spider Man 2. I'd hand the franchise off to

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Comics to Film (Hughes Brothers)

Without a Pro subscription, it is difficult to view all the in-development details on IMDB. I found this on Wikipedia.. After /From Hell,/ the brothers separated duties on their next projects, although they stayed in close approximation to one another. Allen directed a few episodes of the

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

I definitely would not have pegged him for The Lord of the Rings, but he was obviously the only person to do it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i gotta disagree on "Hellboy". That movie rocked. And some of the pieces: the > initial magic working with Nazis, the religious dude, the look and feel of

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

I think they are creative visions of magic, imagination and innocence. They might not be right for the Ring, but I can not see how one could argue that they are bad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > they're good examples of story, acting, plotting, action, FX, CGI, and that > all-important, all-eva

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: 4400 Is Canceled

Me too. I hope the producers (former Star Trek people) return to the small screen soon. Reece Jennings wrote: > I liked the series. I liked the way the everything was not all Black and > white. > People's lives were intertwined by having family members who were > influenced, > or who were take

Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film

the more i think of it the more i agree with you -- Original message -- From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I hope this idiotic dance routine is not a new trend in the Comics to > film genre. While Spidey 3 was bad, it is in a dif

Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film

so true... -- Original message -- From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I think we all just want Jackson :( > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > me too. you know, for some reason, even Raimi at his best still just isn't > > my > cho

[scifinoir2] The Hobbit Director Discussion: Whedonesque

I spent the first part of my morning at work catching up on the most recent threads. I am the boss. I can do whatever I want!! On Saturdays I slack when there are no customers. Today it's coffee, kolaches and Sci-Fi discussions. So I've been following this discussion with some interest. First off,

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

Chris says it will be a cold day in hell before you ever see catch him on camera doing the powerpuff dance. But he'd be happy to catch me and Kira doing it. However, last wee,k during our family tree trimming gathering, Kira put the Christmas tree skirt on his shoulders and gave him a big can

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

I'm the industry expert? Me, who from Philly forgot about Smith's Production company? I do not think so. Thanks though. I really do not know how they got together. I think if we fans were not so hungry for more of the the magic that Jackson created with the Lord of the Ring series. Since

Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film

I hope this idiotic dance routine is not a new trend in the Comics to film genre. While Spidey 3 was bad, it is in a different league than Silver Surfer. I saw glimpses of a good film in Spidey 3. Silver Surfer was just a mess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Well, which was worse: Peter's strut

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

You nailed it Keith. Hellboy is freakin fantastic. One of the best comic to fim adaptations ever. B --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i gotta disagree on "Hellboy". That movie rocked. And some of the > pieces: the initial magic working with Nazis, the religious dude, > the look and feel of their he

Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film

I think we all just want Jackson :( [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > me too. you know, for some reason, even Raimi at his best still just isn't my > choice for the Middle Earth world. Just doesn't seem the best possible fit to > me. > but hell, it's not as if my phone's ringing with anyone from Jacks

Re: [scifinoir2] 4400 Is Canceled

Why? I think the problem is that there were only 14 episodes every year and they do not promote them much except on USA. Reece Jennings wrote: > I was surprised that it was still on and that new episodes were being > produced. > > > Maurice Jennings > Have you or someone you know been threa

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Comics to Film

Holy man. That's it!! I really liked it. Reece Jennings wrote: > "Holy Man" was that movie. I enjoyed it, and I saw Bowfinger, too. I don't > remember much about the > movie except that I was pleasantly surprised... > > > Maurice Jennings > Have you or someone you know been threatened with

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Speaking of Will Smith

*Crickets* Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com _ From: scifinoir2@yahoogroup

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: 4400 Is Canceled

I liked the series. I liked the way the everything was not all Black and white. People's lives were intertwined by having family members who were influenced, or who were taken and returned. Even the NTAC agents couldn't always be objective, because a son, nephew, or adopted daughter was influenc

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Comics to Film

yeah! -- Original message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] And the look on Kit's face in the parking garage as he is being stalked by the dog in heels? My wife completely loses it at that scene. __ James Landrith [EMAIL

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

the Grinch was a Ron Howard film Bosco --- "Tracey de Morsella (formerly Tracey L. Minor)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > He did the Grinch?!?!?!?!? My daughter has been torturing me with > that > crap all week. What a mess. What was he on. It was so hard to > watch the > piggy people and he do

Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film

although many applaud or at least tolerate the FF movies because they have a sense of fun, i've found them to be trash. Alba can't act, is the wrong choice for Sue, and the scripts have sucked. Galactus was a bitter disappointment, the change to the source of the Surfer's power was laughably pit

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

why do you think LOTR bored you at the theatre? what was the difference in your home viewing experience? -- Original message -- From: Daryle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> And here is where the fandom line is sort of drawn. I have said this before, and I will say it again. I saw L

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

And here is where the fandom line is sort of drawn. I have said this before, and I will say it again. I saw LOTR in a theater and I have never had such a good sleep outside of my own bed. I tried again with the second picture, and again, fell asleep. These just aren¹t my kind of stories. I can app

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Comics to Film

I thought the Fed Ex joke was particularly funny, as I worked from home for quite a while. I have to say, I like the new Eddie Murphy. Ever since he started doing children¹s pictures, he has grown to be a particularly solid and consistent actor. I BELIEVE him in stuff like ³Doolittle². Even in

Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film

I thought Peter's dance was a highlight of the picture. That is to say, the whole picture was bad. I don't think anyone will be able to do a better picture than Spider Man 2. I'd hand the franchise off to another director at this point and let Raimi co-produce. When I hold "Spiderman 3" against "R

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Comics to Film (Hughes Brothers)

Well, ³From Hell² was in 2001, so, unless there¹s something in the works now...I¹d say that was it. On 12/22/07 1:08 AM, "tdemorsella" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Touching Evil was really good; From Hell was almost a masterpiece. I > sure hope that is not the last we have see

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

i gotta disagree on "Hellboy". That movie rocked. And some of the pieces: the initial magic working with Nazis, the religious dude, the look and feel of their headquarters, all show a deft hand with set design, FX, and even CGI. It's not a direct one-to-one correlation with the world of the Hobb

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

they're good examples of story, acting, plotting, action, FX, CGI, and that all-important, all-evasise "look" of a film. And from those directors, I see more of a total package to do Hobbit than from Raimi. I just see their talents better fitting to creating that look and feel that is Jackson's

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

awesome! so, when do we get to see you, Chris, and Kira on You Tube doing the deMorsella Super Power Family Dance!! "Power Puff Girls" is awesome. No one-adult or child--can watch that silly show without laughing -- Original message -- From: "Tracey de Morsella (formerl

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

i only saw part of Pan's Labyrinth, but it was awesome. his vision and outre imagination are something else. You know, as a child del Toro literally had waking dreams, where he saw some of the very images that he'd later put into movies, but in his real life. Not sure what the condition was (is?

Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film

Well, which was worse: Peter's strut down the street, winking at women, or Reed Richards' elasticized dance routine in "Rise of the Silver Surfer"? Both left me gagging. As for which movie was the worst, that's a tough one. I have no desire to see FF2 again, but it's shorter than Spidey 3, so m

Re: [scifinoir2] Comics to Film

me too. you know, for some reason, even Raimi at his best still just isn't my choice for the Middle Earth world. Just doesn't seem the best possible fit to me. but hell, it's not as if my phone's ringing with anyone from Jackson's camp asking for my opinion! :) -- Original message -

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

In a message dated 12/22/2007 1:44:29 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: for some reason I feel del Toro's immersion in fantasy (Pan's Labyrinth, Hell boy) would work, combined with his natural ebullience and childlike sense of wonder Pan had other theme intertwined in t

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

In a message dated 12/22/2007 1:39:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The think del Toro is dark on the order of Raimi and Burton, Exactly **See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Raimi Helming Hell, Then Hobbit

In a message dated 12/22/2007 1:26:06 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pan's Labyrinth, Hellboy, Children of Men, and Harry Potter that they can balance all the aspects required of such a film as one based on The Hobbit These are bad examples of magic, imagination and in

RE: [scifinoir2] 4400 Is Canceled

I was surprised that it was still on and that new episodes were being produced. Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, No Obligation Evaluation => http://www.legacyhomesavers.com

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Comics to Film

"Holy Man" was that movie. I enjoyed it, and I saw Bowfinger, too. I don't remember much about the movie except that I was pleasantly surprised... Maurice Jennings Have you or someone you know been threatened with foreclosure? KEEP your home and Stop Foreclosure in its Tracks! Get a Free, N